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Topic: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-11 06:47:45 and read 1256 times.

Hello. I'd like feedback on these pictures below.  

PRE-SCREENING:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342Edit.jpg

I really appreciate all the advice.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: nikog
Posted 2012-11-11 08:38:20 and read 1257 times.

Hi,

First one is dirty, flat and soft.
The second is dark, blurry and soft and dirty also.

Gregory

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-12 02:19:39 and read 1256 times.

I've made some changes. Are they any better?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998EditII.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-12 02:31:13 and read 1256 times.

Another shot:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-12 11:31:47 and read 1256 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 2):
I've made some changes.

Still multiple dust spots on the first, and at least one on the second.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 3):
Another shot:

Soft, and very low contrast.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-13 02:06:53 and read 1256 times.

Thank you dlowwa and nikog for the input.

How do they look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998EditII-1.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-1.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-1.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-13 08:56:48 and read 1256 times.

First isn't dirty any more, but will be borderline for grainy/quality. Second should be ok. Third still has low contrast.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-14 01:39:20 and read 1256 times.

Thank you. I think I shall scrap the Scoot 777 and put the Kalitta 747 in queue.

How is the contrast on the BA now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-2.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-14 08:57:52 and read 1256 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 7):
How is the contrast on the BA now?

Better, but quality will still be borderline.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-15 06:13:28 and read 1256 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 8):

Should I sharpen it further?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-3.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-15 14:35:17 and read 1256 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 9):
Should I sharpen it further?

No, it looks a little oversharpened already.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-15 15:28:49 and read 1256 times.

What are ways to improve quality? I use a Canon EOS 550D with 15-85mm and 75-300mm lens.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-16 22:17:44 and read 1256 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 11):
What are ways to improve quality?

That totally depends on what is causing the quality problems in the first place, which could be any number of things: poor lens, atmospheric conditions, shooting through glass, etc...

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-17 07:05:18 and read 1256 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):

Oh I see, thank you.

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I currently only have the Kalitta 747 in queue.

3 additional pictures: How are they?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1663Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1770Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3063Edit.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-18 19:34:54 and read 1256 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 13):
3 additional pictures: How are they?

Second one is a little bright but should otherwise stand a good chance. The first has issues with contrast (low) and sharpening (too much), while the third is pretty badly backlit and probably not fixable.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-20 00:39:59 and read 1256 times.

Ah, thanks a lot.

I'll scrap the SAS and EC Air and put the Air Berlin in queue.

How about these 3?

I'll put links instead, so it doesn't slow down the loading of the page.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359.jpg (Singapore Airlines A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586.jpg (Thai Airways A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3685.jpg (Japan Airlines B788)

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: JKPhotos
Posted 2012-11-20 01:46:10 and read 1256 times.

The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.
So better leave it for good and try to catch them again with more favourable conditions.



The first one looks okay to me, but my monitor is terrible, so better wait for another opinion.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-20 02:07:59 and read 1256 times.

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

I see little difference between the three, so why would the first be ok, but not the last two?

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.

Why would it not be fixable? It would only need adjustments to the exposure/contrast.

They are also soft and have multiple large dust spots. The foreground tree(s) are not adding much, so better to avoid them if possible.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-22 02:07:17 and read 1250 times.

Thank you guys.  

Unfortunately, the Kalitta 747 was rejected for: "yellow cast color"

I edited it. How does it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-2.jpg (Kalitta 747)

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http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359-1.jpg (Singapore A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586-1.jpg (Thai A333)

I scrapped the JAL 787 and decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

 http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8682.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-22 14:21:42 and read 1234 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
I edited it. How does it look now?

Looks fine to me.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

Some editing halos, but otherwise ok.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-23 05:00:00 and read 1220 times.

Thank you. The Kalitta 747 and the Emirates A332 are in queue, as well as the Singapore A333.

Is the Thai A333 ok as well, before uploading?

Plus another picture:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5524Edited-1.jpg

I'm not very sure about the whitebalance thing.  

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-23 10:31:53 and read 1206 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Is the Thai A333 ok as well

No, it is quite poor, sorry.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Plus another picture:

This has multiple issues (noise, exposure, color, softness/blur).

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-24 05:01:19 and read 1195 times.

Ok, I'll scrap those two as well then.

How about these? Which of these two stands a better chance?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4027.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-24 09:03:07 and read 1182 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 22):
Which of these two stands a better chance?

The first is better than the second, but it is soft.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-24 17:29:38 and read 1171 times.

How about now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020-1.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: DL747
Posted 2012-11-24 22:52:47 and read 1162 times.

Looks better to me, but the titles might be a bit oversharpened (for my taste, anyway.) But, I a still fairly new at this, so let Dana have a look.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-25 00:24:57 and read 1159 times.

The link in Reply 24 is broken now.

I unsharpened it a little now:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

How are these two pictures as well?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5663Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-25 00:55:28]

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-25 02:26:15 and read 1164 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 26):
I unsharpened it a little now:

You unsharpened it? Being soft implies that you should sharpen it more. In any case, the quality still looks borderline, as you can see it gets soft toward the edges. There is some chromatic aberration visible there as well, which would indicate the lack of quality is likely due to your lens.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 26):
How are these two pictures as well?

First is blurry and unlevel, second is not bad, but again a little soft toward the edges.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-25 04:40:30 and read 1156 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 27):
You unsharpened it?

I sharpened it after your comment in Reply 23. The link in 24 got broken, then after DL747 commented, I unsharpened it very slightly.

I guess it is time to upgrade the lens.  

I really would like to upload that QF A332 since it's new (delivered just this morning in SYD from TLS via SIN)

How about this new one to work with?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024.jpg

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Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-1.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-25 14:05:23 and read 1138 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28):
How about this new one to work with?

Better crop, but again not the best light, which makes it a bit dark/contrasty.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28):
Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?

Looks like you sharpened more than just the edges of the frame. See how the middle is oversharpened now.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-26 02:30:12 and read 1131 times.

Edited:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024Edit.jpg (QF A332)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-2.jpg (AB A320)

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-26 08:32:33 and read 1111 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 30):
Edited

Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-27 00:54:11 and read 1085 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31):
Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.

Alrighty. I guess I'll try my luck and upload the QF A332.

The Air Berlin 737-700 got rejected for: "Green/cyan cast"  

I have one spot left in the queue, so how about this one?

 
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9433.jpg



Thank you once again for all the advice.  

[Edited 2012-11-27 00:55:00]

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-27 12:09:31 and read 1069 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 32):
so how about this one?

Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-28 00:01:38 and read 1057 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 33):
Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.

Aww... ok. This one?  

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-28 00:40:40 and read 1053 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 34):
This one?

Red cast and editing halos.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-28 01:17:18 and read 1054 times.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-1.jpg

How do you fix editing halos?

I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-28 18:34:31 and read 1030 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 36):
How do you fix editing halos?

Impossible to say without knowing what you are doing to introduce them.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 36):
I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.

Halos are still pretty strong.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-29 03:27:36 and read 1018 times.

Hmm, well I just shot normally in 'Automatic' mode. Didn't do anything out of the ordinary.

Edited again:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-2.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-29 15:53:40 and read 1001 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 38):
Edited again:

Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-30 00:47:14 and read 982 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 39):
Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.

Omg, ok.

I don't know what I did during editing to cause those halos. (Maybe I shouldn't have played Beyonce's 'Halo' on repeat)

I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings, I'm not too sure.

I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142.jpg

I also would like feedback on another shot as well:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5805.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-30 01:29:00]

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-11-30 01:40:22 and read 979 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings

Yes, the shadow/highlight tool will certainly introduce halos.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:

No halos, but slightly red cast and harsh contrast.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I also would like feedback on another shot as well:

Very soft, almost blurry. Also, lots of wasted space at 3:2.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-11-30 03:42:48 and read 973 times.

How about now? Scrapped the tail shot.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142-1.jpg

2 more shots as well:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9891.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9727.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-12-01 00:30:32 and read 952 times.

The Kalitta 747 was accepted.  

The Singapore A333 was rejected because of the sky being grainy. If I sharpened the sky, would it work?

The Emirates A332 was rejected for blurry nose.  

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-12-06 02:35:21 and read 903 times.

How about this one too?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1542.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-12-07 00:05:21 and read 882 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 43):
How about this one too?

A bit flat. Also some moiré on the cheat lines, but that's hard to avoid with such liveries.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-12-15 07:52:55 and read 816 times.

Thank you.

How about this one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4352.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-12-15 12:50:52 and read 805 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 46):
How about this one?

Should be ok.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: SGAviation
Posted 2012-12-16 03:10:17 and read 790 times.

Thank you.

Can I have feedback on this one too?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4533.jpg

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: DL747
Posted 2012-12-16 11:37:48 and read 774 times.

Looks a tad soft toward the front, and noisy. Also might be a bit flat. I am assuming this was at a higher ISO, as it looks very grainy.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: dlowwa
Posted 2012-12-16 11:56:47 and read 773 times.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 48):
Can I have feedback on this one too?

Soft, but otherwise ok.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 49):
as it looks very grainy.

No, it does not.

Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)
Username: DL747
Posted 2012-12-16 11:58:41 and read 772 times.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 50):

Well, the upper left does, to me anyway. Unless it is clouds doing that, to me it looks noisy.


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