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Topic: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-11 06:47:45 and read 1014 times.Hello. I'd like feedback on these pictures below. 
PRE-SCREENING:


I really appreciate all the advice. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: nikog Posted 2012-11-11 08:38:20 and read 1015 times.Hi,
First one is dirty, flat and soft.
The second is dark, blurry and soft and dirty also.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-12 02:19:39 and read 1014 times.I've made some changes. Are they any better?

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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-12 02:31:13 and read 1014 times.Another shot:
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-12 11:31:47 and read 1014 times.
Still multiple dust spots on the first, and at least one on the second.
Soft, and very low contrast.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-13 02:06:53 and read 1014 times.Thank you dlowwa and nikog for the input.
How do they look now?


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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-13 08:56:48 and read 1014 times.First isn't dirty any more, but will be borderline for grainy/quality. Second should be ok. Third still has low contrast. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-14 01:39:20 and read 1014 times.Thank you. I think I shall scrap the Scoot 777 and put the Kalitta 747 in queue.
How is the contrast on the BA now?
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-14 08:57:52 and read 1014 times.
Better, but quality will still be borderline.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-15 06:13:28 and read 1014 times.
Should I sharpen it further?

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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-15 14:35:17 and read 1014 times.
No, it looks a little oversharpened already.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-15 15:28:49 and read 1014 times.What are ways to improve quality? I use a Canon EOS 550D with 15-85mm and 75-300mm lens. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-16 22:17:44 and read 1014 times.
That totally depends on what is causing the quality problems in the first place, which could be any number of things: poor lens, atmospheric conditions, shooting through glass, etc...
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-17 07:05:18 and read 1014 times.
Oh I see, thank you.
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I currently only have the Kalitta 747 in queue.
3 additional pictures: How are they?



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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-18 19:34:54 and read 1014 times.
Second one is a little bright but should otherwise stand a good chance. The first has issues with contrast (low) and sharpening (too much), while the third is pretty badly backlit and probably not fixable.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-20 00:39:59 and read 1014 times.Ah, thanks a lot.
I'll scrap the SAS and EC Air and put the Air Berlin in queue.
How about these 3?
I'll put links instead, so it doesn't slow down the loading of the page.
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359.jpg (Singapore Airlines A333)
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586.jpg (Thai Airways A333)
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3685.jpg (Japan Airlines B788) |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: JKPhotos Posted 2012-11-20 01:46:10 and read 1014 times.The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).
As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.
So better leave it for good and try to catch them again with more favourable conditions.
The first one looks okay to me, but my monitor is terrible, so better wait for another opinion. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-20 02:07:59 and read 1014 times.Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16): The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL). |
I see little difference between the three, so why would the first be ok, but not the last two?
Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16): As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance. |
Why would it not be fixable? It would only need adjustments to the exposure/contrast.
They are also soft and have multiple large dust spots. The foreground tree(s) are not adding much, so better to avoid them if possible.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-22 02:07:17 and read 1008 times.Thank you guys. 
Unfortunately, the Kalitta 747 was rejected for: "yellow cast color"
I edited it. How does it look now?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-2.jpg (Kalitta 747)
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http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359-1.jpg (Singapore A333)
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586-1.jpg (Thai A333)
I scrapped the JAL 787 and decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8682.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-22 14:21:42 and read 992 times.
Looks fine to me.
Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18): decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok? |
Some editing halos, but otherwise ok.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-23 05:00:00 and read 978 times.Thank you. The Kalitta 747 and the Emirates A332 are in queue, as well as the Singapore A333.
Is the Thai A333 ok as well, before uploading?
Plus another picture:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5524Edited-1.jpg
I'm not very sure about the whitebalance thing.  |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-23 10:31:53 and read 964 times.
No, it is quite poor, sorry.
This has multiple issues (noise, exposure, color, softness/blur).
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-24 05:01:19 and read 953 times.Ok, I'll scrap those two as well then.
How about these? Which of these two stands a better chance?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4027.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-24 09:03:07 and read 940 times.
The first is better than the second, but it is soft.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-24 17:29:38 and read 929 times.How about now?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020-1.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: DL747 Posted 2012-11-24 22:52:47 and read 920 times.Looks better to me, but the titles might be a bit oversharpened (for my taste, anyway.) But, I a still fairly new at this, so let Dana have a look. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-25 00:24:57 and read 917 times.The link in Reply 24 is broken now.
I unsharpened it a little now:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg
How are these two pictures as well?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5663Edit.jpg
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit.jpg
[Edited 2012-11-25 00:55:28] |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-25 02:26:15 and read 922 times.
You unsharpened it? Being soft implies that you should sharpen it more. In any case, the quality still looks borderline, as you can see it gets soft toward the edges. There is some chromatic aberration visible there as well, which would indicate the lack of quality is likely due to your lens.
First is blurry and unlevel, second is not bad, but again a little soft toward the edges.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-25 04:40:30 and read 914 times.
I sharpened it after your comment in Reply 23. The link in 24 got broken, then after DL747 commented, I unsharpened it very slightly.
I guess it is time to upgrade the lens. 
I really would like to upload that QF A332 since it's new (delivered just this morning in SYD from TLS via SIN)
How about this new one to work with?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024.jpg
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Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-1.jpg
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-25 14:05:23 and read 896 times.
Better crop, but again not the best light, which makes it a bit dark/contrasty.
Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28): Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now? |
Looks like you sharpened more than just the edges of the frame. See how the middle is oversharpened now.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-26 02:30:12 and read 889 times.Edited:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024Edit.jpg (QF A332)
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-2.jpg (AB A320) |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-26 08:32:33 and read 869 times.
Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-27 00:54:11 and read 843 times.Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31): Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit. |
Alrighty. I guess I'll try my luck and upload the QF A332.
The Air Berlin 737-700 got rejected for: "Green/cyan cast" 
I have one spot left in the queue, so how about this one?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9433.jpg
Thank you once again for all the advice. 
[Edited 2012-11-27 00:55:00]
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-27 12:09:31 and read 827 times.
Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-28 00:01:38 and read 815 times.Quoting dlowwa (Reply 33): Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it. |
Aww... ok. This one?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514.jpg
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-28 00:40:40 and read 811 times.
Red cast and editing halos.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-28 01:17:18 and read 812 times.http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-1.jpg
How do you fix editing halos?
I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-28 18:34:31 and read 788 times.
Impossible to say without knowing what you are doing to introduce them.
Halos are still pretty strong.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-29 03:27:36 and read 776 times.Hmm, well I just shot normally in 'Automatic' mode. Didn't do anything out of the ordinary.
Edited again:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-2.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-29 15:53:40 and read 759 times.
Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-30 00:47:14 and read 740 times.Quoting dlowwa (Reply 39): Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing. |
Omg, ok.
I don't know what I did during editing to cause those halos. (Maybe I shouldn't have played Beyonce's 'Halo' on repeat)
I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings, I'm not too sure.
I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142.jpg
I also would like feedback on another shot as well:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5805.jpg
[Edited 2012-11-30 01:29:00]
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-11-30 01:40:22 and read 737 times.
Yes, the shadow/highlight tool will certainly introduce halos.
Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40): I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result: |
No halos, but slightly red cast and harsh contrast.
Very soft, almost blurry. Also, lots of wasted space at 3:2.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-11-30 03:42:48 and read 731 times.How about now? Scrapped the tail shot.
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142-1.jpg
2 more shots as well:
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9891.jpg
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9727.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-12-01 00:30:32 and read 710 times.The Kalitta 747 was accepted. 
The Singapore A333 was rejected because of the sky being grainy. If I sharpened the sky, would it work?
The Emirates A332 was rejected for blurry nose.  |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-12-06 02:35:21 and read 661 times.How about this one too?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1542.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-12-07 00:05:21 and read 640 times.
A bit flat. Also some moiré on the cheat lines, but that's hard to avoid with such liveries.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-12-15 07:52:55 and read 574 times.Thank you.
How about this one?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4352.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-12-15 12:50:52 and read 563 times.
Should be ok.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: SGAviation Posted 2012-12-16 03:10:17 and read 548 times.Thank you.
Can I have feedback on this one too?
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4533.jpg |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: DL747 Posted 2012-12-16 11:37:48 and read 532 times.Looks a tad soft toward the front, and noisy. Also might be a bit flat. I am assuming this was at a higher ISO, as it looks very grainy. |
Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: dlowwa Posted 2012-12-16 11:56:47 and read 531 times.
Soft, but otherwise ok.
No, it does not.
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Topic: RE: Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation) Username: DL747 Posted 2012-12-16 11:58:41 and read 530 times.
Well, the upper left does, to me anyway. Unless it is clouds doing that, to me it looks noisy.
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