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User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Just looking for a little feedback, I've been trying some new things and a new lens lately, and the weather's been largely poor in my area lately, so I've gone out a few times and shot on days I would ordinarily have just stayed home on.

I had this one rejected for contrast and overexposed:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._k1327270576.3395clex_a6-egm_2.jpg

Overexposed is one I don't remember if I've gotten before, but it doesn't seem like something that's fixable. Nevertheless, the rejection did come with a personal note about the contrast, so I've given it a try:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../x1328154254.3518clex_a6-egm_3.jpg

Any better?

I also wondered about this one, taken in similar light but thankfully without Seattle's trademark mist:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../i1327865471.9746clex_b-2089_1.jpg

Opinions?

I haven't had all that much time to work on my photos lately, and I feel a bit out of practice.

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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1745 times:
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So did you end up buying the lens? What was it you were trying out before, the 100-400?

Both images seem a little soft. The CA should be ok for contrast, but the EK is still pretty borderline (due to weather/light).


User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

It turned out that there was an issue with that copy of the 100-400, but I'm going to try again. It's too tempting not to. These shots were taken with a 70-200 F4/L, but the 100-400 is still on my radar.

I figured softness might be an issue, particularly on the CA. I'll see if I can improve them.

I've got a few more to try out over the next few days, beginning with one I'm very doubtful about, but which was fun to take:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../i1328170548.8885clex_zk-okq_1.jpg

I don't take very many pictures after sundown, but this was too interesting to pass up, and I'd missed it three times in two days before finally catching it on this try. Probably only for my private collection though.


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
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Quoting Cargolex (Reply 2):
beginning with one I'm very doubtful about

Actually, that's pretty good. You'll definitely need to brighten it a fair bit (actual conditions, I know, but trust me), but if you can get a brighter edit that's still clean it should have a pretty good chance. I wouldn't even be surprised to see it make the front page.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9769 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1708 times:
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Quoting Cargolex (Reply 2):
I've got a few more to try out over the next few days, beginning with one I'm very doubtful about, but which was fun to take:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../i1328170548.8885clex_zk-okq_1.jpg

I don't take very many pictures after sundown, but this was too interesting to pass up, and I'd missed it three times in two days before finally catching it on this try. Probably only for my private collection though.

Nothing quality-wise to comment on, but just wanted to say that's a beautiful photo! Hope it makes it on here.



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User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Well, that's a good surprise. I'll have to see if I can improve it.

A reworked CA 777, sharpened up a bit:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/l1328241448.649clex_b-2089_3.jpg


User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 4):

Nothing quality-wise to comment on, but just wanted to say that's a beautiful photo!

Thanks! Even if it doesn't make it, it was a nice night to be out watching the aircraft.

A brightened version:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../t1328247708.6161clex_zk-okq_4.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
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Both are better, though I'd take the NZ a little brighter still.

User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Thanks Dana. I'll give the NZ another pass tonight.

Another gray day 777 for consideration and opinion:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../f1328282608.1896clex_a6-etj_3.jpg

A bit soft and dark, I think?


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1675 times:
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Quoting Cargolex (Reply 8):
A bit soft and dark, I think?

Don't think it's too dark, but maybe a bit flat & soft, yes.


User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Another pass at the NZ:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../j1328337614.4462clex_zk-okq_5.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1666 times:
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Quoting Cargolex (Reply 10):
Another pass at the NZ:

I can only see a minimal difference to be honest.


User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

A bit more of a push (Thanks for being patient, by the way):

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../i1328340377.2113clex_zk-okq_6.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
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Looks better. Might as well go with that one and see what happens.

User currently offlineCargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Another pre-screen. Not sure about color here:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/j1328800326.975clex_n837aw_1.jpg

Needs some sharpening in some places too, but I'm more concerned about whether it looks natural. The light was very filtered/hazy when I shot it.


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1607 times:
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Yes, bit soft, but otherwise should be ok.

User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

Two more for opinions (anybody's opinions are welcome):

Unsure overall:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../y1329281784.144clex_ja786a_1b.jpg

This one was rejected for soft, sharpened up, but enough?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../a1329285069.3192clex_n906da_2.jpg

Judging sharpness seems to be the thing I have the most difficulty with.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9769 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1557 times:
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They both seem a bit low in the frame to me.

First one looks a bit soft in parts. Second looks OK to me sharpness-wise.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1550 times:
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Quoting cargolex (Reply 16):
Two more for opinions (anybody's opinions are welcome):

Centering and sharpness should be fine for both.


User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1529 times:

Thanks guys.

Another previous soft reject that's been reworked (the previous version has been removed from the rejected images area, however):

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../b1329334891.2483clex_n168cl_2.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1524 times:
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Sharpness should be fine.

User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Thanks as usual, Dana.

Another soft reject that's been reworked:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/x1329532613.672clex_hl7539_2.jpg

Better, I hope?

Vik, if you're reading this, this photo was shot at 180mm on the 70-200 F4/L, since I know you've just acquired one. I still have issues judging sharpness, but I'm quite happy with that lens.


User currently offlinealevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 947 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1490 times:
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KE HL7539 looks good to me.


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9769 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1488 times:
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Quoting CargoLex (Reply 21):
Vik, if you're reading this, this photo was shot at 180mm on the 70-200 F4/L, since I know you've just acquired one. I still have issues judging sharpness, but I'm quite happy with that lens.

I am reading this, and awesome - thanks for the note. I should have mine tomorrow...can't wait!

Also, sorry if I threw you off with my centering and sharpness comment. Glad Dana corrected it.



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User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 1469 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 23):
Also, sorry if I threw you off with my centering and sharpness comment. Glad Dana corrected it.

Oh, no problem. That 77W was one where I processed it, got it where I wanted it, and then decided I wasn't really sure at all about it when I was done. Mostly I'm just trying to get my sharpness judgement back. Ton of rejections for soft lately, hence the pre-screening.

That in mind, a trio of new ones:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../u1329626203.1191clex_n323as_1.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../d1329686228.2632clex_n817sy_1.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../r1329585759.4005clex_c-fadf_1.jpg


25 dlowwa : They should be ok.
26 Post contains links CargoLex : Thanks Dana. A couple more I'm unsure about: I think this one's basically okay, I just want to make sure. http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...z1330
27 dlowwa : A touch bright, but otherwise ok. A touch soft/lif, but also otherwise ok.
28 Post contains links CargoLex : Thanks Dana, as usual. This was rejected again for soft, despite the positive indication from Alevik last week. I've never appealed a rejection, is th
29 dlowwa : Up to you, but it does look a bit soft to me. No, should be ok.
30 Post contains links CargoLex : Yeah, looking at it closer, it was better to try a rework. Hence: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../e1330798204.6991clex_hl7539_3.jpg A rework
31 dlowwa : KE is still a little soft, especially toward the rear. The AS should be passable.
32 Post contains links CargoLex : I'm having a really hard time here. When I look at the KE in the current edit, it looks close to oversharp. Looking at it against other KE 332's in th
33 dlowwa : That actually doesn't look too bad. It would stand a pretty good chance at appeal, but if that's not your inclination, a slight re-working should be
34 Post contains links CargoLex : Thanks Dana. I reworked that AS: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../n1331182161.4548clex_n317as_2.jpg I did think about appealing it, but decided
35 dlowwa : Looks fine to me.
36 Post contains links cargolex : Rejected for "quality quality soft color": http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...7_s1331444043.189clex_n699br_1.jpg Surprised at that, honestly. The
37 dlowwa : Looks a little soft, but overall not that bad. There is a slight magenta tint. You might have noticed it was rejected by a screener in training, it s
38 Post contains links cargolex : Actually I hadn't noticed that (I checked the queue and not my e-mail). Interesting. I'll probably do a light rework on that one and make a note of t
39 dlowwa : Bit of softness in the tail area, but don't see any other major issues, so might sneak in.
40 Post contains links cargolex : Thanks Dana. Trying again with this guy (not previously rejected, just never let it go to screening): http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../b1332339
41 dlowwa : Looks a bit soft, though that might just be the light. Looks ok to me.
42 Post contains links Cargolex : Considering an appeal on this, but still resistant to appeals in general. Rejected for grainy / soft. http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...h13329015
43 dlowwa : Don't see much noise either, but it is a bit soft.
44 Post contains links cargolex : Thanks Dana. I'll just do a little sharpening and check for any noise on the Qatar when I get a chance. Pre-screening another one here: http://www.air
45 dlowwa : Yes, a bit soft, but only needs a little sharpening, not a lot.
46 Airimage : I'm sorry if this is the wrong place, and I'm sorry to use this thread as an example but I find it very off putting/ frustrating to come across a thre
47 Post contains links Cargolex : Well, I guess I understand that frustration, but...I don't pre-screen every image (and I don't think one should) and I don't leave things in the queu
48 dlowwa : Should be ok. Not bad, but still borderline soft.
49 Post contains links Airimage : I wasn't blaming you mate, I was blaming the system here. BTW what happened to this http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../x1328154254.3518clex_a6-e
50 Post contains links and images Cargolex : Thanks. It was accepted with the adjustments recommended. View Large View MediumPhoto © A. Kwanten The weather was awful that day, but it was a nice
51 dlowwa : Should be ok.
52 Post contains links Cargolex : The KE did finally make it! One knocked today for blurry: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._t1335882530.2189clex_n839mh_2.jpg Specifically blurr
53 Post contains links Cargolex : About that tail.. http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=120142&filename=php9CpXLc.jpeg That's a crop from the full size original, no sharpening,
54 dlowwa : Hard to say blurry for sure, but the ship number on the tail does look that way. Can't see much difference to be honest, but I would have been fine w
55 Cargolex : Thanks Dana. I'm sure I've got another shot of that 764 I can try.
56 Post contains links cargolex : A nose shot for pre-screening: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../h1337870121.1208clex_tc-jjo_1.jpg This was last summer, and the sun was quite h
57 dlowwa : Color looks a bit oversaturated, but other than that, it should be ok.
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