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User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3581 times:

Hi,
this was rejected because of grainy and soft:



Before re-uploading the new edition I would like to have your feedback if it's OK now:



Thanks and regards,
Max

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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3573 times:
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Hi,

Still soft (and dark); not sure if the quality is there.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3570 times:

Is the soft problem only the background (mountains)? The focus sits on the wing which seems sharp to me.

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3568 times:
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Quoting MLP86 (Reply 2):
The focus sits on the wing which seems sharp to me.

No, the wing is soft, especially the winglet.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

It is a bit curious, the antennas are pin sharp, but the leading edge of the winglet is problematic. I've got another frame but with less aircraft visible it wouldn't fit on this site. So I made another try and added also a bit brightness. Would be a pity if it doesn't make it because I like the motive very much (but that doesn't matter I think ).



Regards,
Max

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3525 times:
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Still soft. Might have a chance with some sharpening and at 1024.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Thank you! That's an idea, i'll see what I can do.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3516 times:

At the risk of being annoying  I'd like to ask if it's going in the right direction. I now concentrated on the edges of the wing and especially the winglet:



User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
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Better, though I still thinking going with 1024 wouldn't hurt your chances.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 3495 times:

Thank you Dana for your helpful response! Now I have this one with 1024p in the queue:



Hope it will make it...

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

I got another one which may be difficult. So I would like to get some opinions if it would have a chance and is worth uploading:



Thanks and regards,
Max

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

Hi,
yesterday I uploaded this one:



It would be cool to get some feedback because I took the photo in a difficult light situation and I am not sure if the quality is enough to leave it in the queue.

Thank you very much!
Regards Max

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3413 times:
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Looks a little soft and oversaturated, but might be workable with a better edit.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Hey,
I'd like to know if this one is ok in terms of sharpness. It is a new edit after rejection because of that.



Thanks a lot!
Max

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

Hi,
after some repeated rejections I have to ask for feedback before uploading the reedited versions.

Starting with this one, first rejection due to soft, second oversharped (jaggies on leading edge). Hopefully I now got the right balance:



Here the reason were oversharped titles:



The next one was a bit overexposed:



Thanks!
Max

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2831 times:
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Quality should be ok on the second and third, but don't think it's there for the first.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Thank you for the fast reply!

Again to the first one, do you mean there is a problem with sharpness or can you specify missing quality? It's a pity that such uncommon shots are so difficult to get accepted...

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2804 times:
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Quoting MLP86 (Reply 16):
Again to the first one, do you mean there is a problem with sharpness or can you specify missing quality?

Looks a little blurry, and oversharpened to compensate to me.

Quoting MLP86 (Reply 16):
It's a pity that such uncommon shots are so difficult to get accepted...

Sorry, there are thousands of widow view shots already accepted, and yours is really too dark to see anything interesting. Don't see why it should get special consideration.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

Thank you for the explanation, it's really helpful for me to collect experience. And yes you're absolutely right. In this case I already used ISO1250 and additional pushed it in post-processing about 1EV - so when I think right, yes, there are really better shots online - no problem.  

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Hello,
can someone with a reliable monitor look if the color of this photo is ok now? My monitor is not professionally calibrated, so I have to rely on the AWB of my cam...
In the rejection there was no remark, only the tag color. It could have been a bit yellow, I have tried to correct that:



Thanks,
Max

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2224 times:
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A bit yellow, but the bigger problem is the contrast. In fact, checking the logs, this had been rejected twice for contrast, and it looks like you've made minimal to no change to the contrast between the two images. I suggest you do something to address that if you decide to attempt the image again.

User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Thanks for your evaluation. Yes I have to adjust contrast and crop. Just wanted to clear the color problem first...

User currently offlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Quoting MLP86 (Reply 21):

Since your contrast is higher that yellow-ish cast is more prominent as well  


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User currently offlineMLP86 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Hehe,
so that brings light into darkness. Am I right that the contrast is to high? I thought in the other direction and increased it after the first rejection, did I misunderstood?

HB-JHJ (now with less contrast and corrected white balance):



So I have to ask about a second shot from this sequence. Maybe I over-corrected the contrast issue after this one was rejected first because of low contrast, in the second rejection contrast was complained without notice so I increased it again. You can have a look:

HB-JHD:


[Edited 2012-07-29 14:23:29]

User currently offlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

In my view (but I might be wrong) both have a tad too much contrast.

Tom


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25 dlowwa: Second version is better.
26 MLP86: Ok, than I assume contrast of the other shot (HB-JHD) is also to high?
27 Post contains images dlowwa: Sorry, missed that they were two different regs. -JHD in reply #23 looks passable, but -JHJ the contrast looks a little low.
28 MLP86: Ahh ok, it was not clever from me to ask about two similar shots in the same post. But it's no problem, so I will let JHD in the queue how it is and a
29 Post contains links and images MLP86: Hey, can someone confirm if colour is ok now? Thanks!
30 dlowwa: Now? Compared to what?
31 Post contains links and images MLP86: Hi Dana, this is the rejected one: I got no advice in which way the colour should be corrected. For the rejected one I used automatic white balance. I
32 Post contains links dlowwa: Can't say I see a big difference between the two, but they both seem a bit yellow. I would try to avoid automatic anything really, nothing better tha
33 Post contains images MLP86: I am going to adjust the colour of the first photo again, it is no problem because I use RAW format. Generally I just have more confidence in the AWB
34 Post contains links and images MLP86: I am not surprised that the appeal was declined because of the grainy issue, but beside that the reason is again bad centered. Sure that I should crop
35 dlowwa: I see there were not any comments about the crop on the appeal so it could be that whoever handled it forgot to remove 'centering' as a reason, but I
36 Post contains links and images MLP86: What do you think about heat haze in this shot, would it be acceptable? Thanks for your contribution!
37 dlowwa: Heat haze shouldn't be a problem, though whatever you've done to the sky has made it quite blotchy.
38 Post contains links and images MLP86: Thanks for the fast reply! I think the sky got blotchy because I brightened up the shades of blue a little bit, that should be fixed now:
39 dlowwa: This should be fine.
40 Post contains links and images MLP86: How is your opinion about this one? I reedited it after it got rejected because of "quality grainy soft dark": Te rejected one is here. Thanks!
41 dlowwa: I don't see noise being a problem, but the light isn't very good.
42 Post contains links and images MLP86: Hey, I got another rejection: reason: low contrast motive contrast personal Can someone explain the motive issue? Should I crop tighter on the instrum
43 Post contains links and images MLP86: Maybe this way? New edit:
44 dlowwa: I think the motive should have been passable on the first, but the contrast is a bit low. The second is overexposed and quite noisy; and I think the
45 MLP86: Thanks Dana, I will follow your suggestion and make a new edit tomorrow. Best Regards, Max
46 Post contains links and images MLP86: I recently changed my monitor and have calibrated it. Now I can comprehend why some shots before got rejected. However I have to get used to it. Uncon
47 dlowwa: Maybe a touch blue, but I don't see color being an major issue.
48 Post contains links and images MLP86: Since I got my new and calibrated monitor, I understand why the picture in post 40 (Swiss A319) was rejected. Now I was trying to get a reedited versi
49 mjgbtv: The new one appears a bit oversharpened in spots, for example the reg letters and the rear of the tail. The contrast looks pretty good to me now, but
50 Post contains links and images MLP86: Thanks for your response! I reduced the sharpness in some spots and clarity for the tail because it looked strangely dark after increasing contrast to
51 Post contains links MLP86: OK, I have to ask again: This one was rejected for low contrast: Version 1 I increased the contrast slightly (already for the second time) and now it
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