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User currently offlineBRE16 From United Kingdom, joined May 2012, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 459 times:

Another try at getting a first accepted shot, these two are very different, the first I think will be rejected because I haven't seen a picture like on this site (and my quality probably won't be good enough anyway) but can anyone tell me specifically why?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../ready/c1337184315.3643fbdhc-8.jpg


Can anyone tell me if I can upload the photos anywhere other than the upload queue ont his site as at the moment I can only show two at a time? (I mean to you, I know I haven't earned the right to submit more than two to the screeners)

[Edited 2012-05-16 10:23:22]

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User currently offlineairkas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3956 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 454 times:

Hi Ben,

The first shots needs a lot more contrast and some CCW rotation aswell. You might want to crop the right side a bit closer aswell.
The second photo will most likely get rejected for motive; the combination of not a lot of wing & nothing really interesting outside will prove fatal (I think). It is also soft.


User currently offlineBRE16 From United Kingdom, joined May 2012, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 452 times:

Is the first one a motive though? I mention I haven't seen ones like it before: (this type gets rejected?)
The second one I thought the light on the wing and the clearness of the sky with the orange'ish in the middle would help, could I sharpen or crop it to make it interesting, or is it lost?

To counter 'softness', do I just sharpen? Then I get too much grain in at least one portion of the picture, which can be fixed by 'masking' but that just softens it, thus defeating the purpose of sharpening?


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9701 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 449 times:
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Quoting BRE16 (Reply 2):
Is the first one a motive though? I mention I haven't seen ones like it before: (this type gets rejected?)

Crop a bit closer on the right as Kas suggested, and I think you'd be fine for motive.

But the contrast is extremely low, and adding a lot of contrast will likely introduce noise as well.

Quoting BRE16 (Reply 2):

To counter 'softness', do I just sharpen? Then I get too much grain in at least one portion of the picture, which can be fixed by 'masking' but that just softens it, thus defeating the purpose of sharpening?

Just sharpen the parts that need sharpening. So in your second photo, select just the wing and sharpen. No need to sharpen the sky, and as you said, that would add a lot of noise.

However, I'd agree with Kas that it'll likely be a motive rejection. Next time, include more wing.



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User currently offlineBRE16 From United Kingdom, joined May 2012, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 443 times:

OK original post has been adited so only one shot now as I have deleted the wingview in favour of this one:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...a1337189138.1864ek036inflight2.jpg

[Edited 2012-05-16 11:11:49]

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 443 times:
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Quoting BRE16 (Reply 2):
Is the first one a motive though? I

The motive is fine, but it will be rejected for the poor quality and very low contrast.

Quoting BRE16 (Reply 2):
I mention I haven't seen ones like it before:

The reason you don't see many (there are some) like this is that it is extremely difficult to get good quality images shooting through aircraft windows, especially in poor light - as is demonstrable with your image above.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9701 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 416 times:
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Quoting BRE16 (Reply 4):
OK original post has been adited so only one shot now as I have deleted the wingview in favour of this one:

Looks soft, overexposed at the winglet, low on contrast.



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