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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1267 times:
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I would like to solicit feedback on the following images before putting them into the queue. Appreciate the time.

This was taken during last years super moon (March 19, 2011). I noticed some lights moving towards the moon, grabbed my camera and snapped a few. Only on my PC did I notice the silhouette of the second plane. This was taken handheld with a kit lens, but as I cannot find any (could be some I can't find) other photos with 2 planes in full silhouette against the moon I thought it might have a chance.



This was taken in flight after leaving FRA for PHL. The United flight was just behind us on the tarmac, and I could see it out the left side for a could hours, then it began to get a lot closer until it passed right over top of us. Very back-lit, and some flare from the sun on the window, but thought this was very close for an air-to-air shot from the cabin.


Another back-lit shot, but the vertices coming off the props were the motive here...


Two shots from the same plane/landing sequence.




Appreciate the feedback.


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
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Not bad captures, especially the first two. Unfortunately the moon shot is just too blurry, and the in-flight shot would be a non-starter due to the large reflection/glare in the lower right corner. The third would be a no-go not only due to the backlighting, but also the fact that it is blurry. The last two, while better in quality are backlit without any real purpose, which generally is not a desirable thing for images here.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1239 times:
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Thanks.

For the moon shot, this is heavily cropped as I only my 70-300 non-IS kit lens, handheld so no chance to try to get a better shot. Thought maybe it's rarity would redeem it, but I agree it's not on par on the quality side.

For the in-flight shot, would it be an excessive/invalid/un-allowable edit to try to fix that (ie clone from the sky around) to remove the glare (not saying I can, but if I tried would it be disallowed anyways)?

The back lighting is a real shame since it's the only location at KRSW to legally loiter and take photos from (without trespassing) and is just opposite the sunrise. Since that time of day is when I get the best scenarios, it's too bad the quality doesn't come along. Any tips for taking shots in this type of environment to keep in mind?

Cheers.


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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1194 times:
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Looking to see if any of my recent photos from SYD and RSW have a chance in the queue...appreciate any feedback on these, or edits to improve them. If this is too many to post at once, I will remove some and wait to post them. Cheers.

Air Berlin - too bright? enough contrast?


Vision


Emirates - too dark?


Singapore -


Qantas -


Emirates A380 - motive (just the pilot waving?)


Air Tran - very bright image, but don't think the highlights are blown...


Southwest


Southwest - Sea world



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1192 times:
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Hi, these all have various issues with size, exposure, centering, over-processing, motive, and color. The only one that is close to being acceptable is the second to last. If you'd like to get into more specifics, probably best to pick just a couple to focus on.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
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How about the last three to start? Those were taken most recently. Thanks.


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1187 times:
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The FL is definitely overexposed. The two WN have halos around them from over-editing, and the first one is over-saturated, while the second looks to have some blur toward the nose.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1174 times:
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Thanks. How is this WN now (first one with the regular paint scheme)? I had applied some "Clarity" in Lightroom, but have removed that and worked the levels a bit more, and de-saturated it a touch. Is it any better?




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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1172 times:
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Have also re-worked the FL to fix the exposure...does this work any better?




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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1166 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 7):
How is this WN now

A bit better, though the color is still a little strong.

Quoting jpmagero (Reply 8):
Have also re-worked the FL to fix the exposure

Not sure what you did, but looks terrible, sorry. Stay away from whichever editing tools you are using (clarity, shadow/highlight, vibrance, etc..), as they're making the images appear garish.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1163 times:
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Quoting dlowwa (Reply 9):
looks terrible

I agree...it was a bad edit and when I re-looked at it again in the office, it looks pretty awful. Will start again, as the original looks ok in terms of quality.


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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1142 times:
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How about now? Seems a bit washed out to me, but maybe that's just me.



side by side comparison:



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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1109 times:
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Just got these shots this morning - they are straight out of the camera, so no editing, NR, or lens correction applied yet. Just wondering if they'd have a chance (fixed up, of course), or if not enough of the aircraft is showing. Thanks.






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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1082 times:
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Very interesting but you are right, my one worry would be

Quoting jpmagero (Reply 12):
not enough of the aircraft is showing

If you had managed to get almost all of the aircraft in silhouette, it might have worked, but as it stands now I don't think there is enough. Certainly something to try again in the future, as it would certainly make a unique shot.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1080 times:
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Cheers. I'm gonna keep going for this shot - see if I can get the perfect strike. The next shot after the plane moved away is actually really cool (sans the plane, of course) with the jet wash flowing "over the top" of the sun.



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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1030 times:
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Hi - I am looking for some feedback/advice on this pic before putting it in the queue. Seems it was en route to MIA, but diverted to RSW due to weather. I arrived just as it was departing so not a lot of time to get setup.




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Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1023 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 15):
I am looking for some feedback/advice on this pic before putting it in the queue.

Low in frame & green tint, and overall marginal quality.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
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This any better? Started again, brought it higher in frame and changed the tint.



Would also appreciate comments on this one - tried to get a pan of the plan landing. This seems reasonably sharp to my eye, but not sure if I'm missing something.



Thanks.


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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 996 times:
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Got a couple others before I pack it in for the night. Thanks in advance.

1: Cessna Skyhawk (piston-single) (C172/G)



2: DL MD88



3: Learjet 60



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Reply 19, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 985 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 17):
This any better? Started again, brought it higher in frame and changed the tint.

Color cast still there and now needs CCW rotation.

Quoting jpmagero (Reply 17):
Would also appreciate comments on this one

Seems passable, though again the color is off.

Quoting jpmagero (Reply 18):
Got a couple others

1. Motive/soft/quality/color.
2. Color/centering
3. Dirty/color

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 982 times:
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Thanks. May need to calibrate my monitor or something.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 19):
1. Motive/soft/quality/color.

Can you help me understand the "motive" issue?


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Reply 21, posted (11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 978 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 20):
Can you help me understand the "motive" issue?

Fence is blocking the gear.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 977 times:
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Quoting dlowwa (Reply 21):
Fence is blocking the gear.

OK - got it.


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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 months 1 week ago) and read 969 times:
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Any better?

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 19):
Color cast still there and now needs CCW rotation.
Quoting dlowwa (Reply 19):
Seems passable, though again the color is off.
Quoting dlowwa (Reply 19):
Dirty/color



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Reply 24, posted (11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 940 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 23):
Any better?

Not much. First still has the color cast, and the quality is borderline anyway. The other two look oversaturated, especially the second.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 888 times:
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Trying a new photo as the others may not have the IQ to be used.

Any feedback? Thanks.



For this one, would this be a motive reject due to the right gear being blocked? Or is that ok due to the fact that it's in tow.



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Reply 26, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 853 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 25):
Any feedback?

A litttle soft & noisy, but might be workable with a better edit.

Quoting jpmagero (Reply 25):
For this one, would this be a motive reject due to the right gear being blocked?

Motive is ok, but quality is lacking (soft, noisy, flat).

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 824 times:
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Cheers. Here is an updated edit (more NR and sharp). About to travel so will upload as is later today if no further issues with it, as I won't get back to it for a few weeks.




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Reply 28, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 823 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 27):
Cheers. Here is an updated edit (more NR and sharp).

Still borderline, but might have a chance.

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