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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1107 times:
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Hi - I had a few rejections lately, and while I know I am not the most experienced guy around here in terms of getting photos ready for a site like this, my first reaction is that I don't see the issues they were rejected for. I'm not taking it personally, or going to get feisty or anything, just want to see if it's just me, or do these photos really suffer, and if so, I will do my best to fix. Thanks.

1 - US Airways - reason: overexposed color. Histogram looks ok, I can see detail on the nose and the light grey lines towards the back...the late afternoon sun is hitting it directly, so it's going to be bright...is it really overexposed? Is "overexposed colors" different from plain "overexposed"?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1343613933.351img_4124_7d-1024.jpg

2 - American Airlines - reason: colours oversaturated and blue cast colour. Here, the blue cast IMO is from the sky, and the blue sky reflecting off the top of the plane. The white stripe does not appear to be blue, just white.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...343613844.8125img_4029_7d-1024.jpg

3 - Southwest - reason: oversaturated colour. I won't argue too much against that, but while it is saturated, is it really oversaturated?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...343613663.4523img_3959_7d-1024.jpg

4 - United - reason: flat contrast contrast. Here, I don't see it. The whites seem white, the blacks seem black...would it rejected for "dark" if I darkened the underbelly a bit?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...343613574.5979img_3940_7d-1024.jpg


John M - Aussie expat in the US
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User currently offlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1102 times:

All of them are a bit oversaturated, but to say there is a huge amount of saturation.. mmmhmm not in my vision.


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
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Rejections seem reasonable, though I would have added dark to the middle two. They just need a little adjustment.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1090 times:
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Quoting Tomskii (Reply 1):
All of them are a bit oversaturated
Quoting dlowwa (Reply 2):
Rejections seem reasonable

Thanks...will tweak and re-load (try a pre-screen first this time)...


John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1056 times:
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I've edited them all...any better, ok to upload now?

1 - reduced saturation


2 - reduced blue cast, increased brightness in shadows


3 - reduced overall saturation, increased brightness in shadows


4 - increased contrast



John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1030 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 4):
I've edited them all...any better, ok to upload now?

Color still looks poor on all of them, and the AA looks really flat/overprocessed now.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1027 times:
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OK - tried again...hope they are closer now...maybe I'm just making adjustments that were too big in the first place.




John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1026 times:
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Color still looks poor on most, if not all of them. If you want, you can send me the RAW file for one of them (UA or US would be best), and I'll do an edit for you.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1023 times:
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Thanks! Have shut it down for the night (on my iPad now) with an early flight in the morning. Will send first thing tomorrow. I assume no problems with large attachments?


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User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
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Dana - I have loaded the files to Dropbox and sent you the link via email. Appreciate the assistance very much.


John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1007 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 9):
I have loaded the files to Dropbox and sent you the link via email.

Yup, got it. Take a look at the quick edit I did, and you should notice a big difference, with the color. My edit is much more subdued than the almost garish colors in your edits. Somewhere along the line you're pushing the saturation way too high. My edit vs. your last one:

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4892/img41247d1024.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/249/phpppyw4k.jpg

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1006 times:
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Got it. Agree with the more subdued colors, am probably trying too hard to lighten the underbelly and then screwing up the colors on the way. Will give these another go. Cheers.

One quick question...are you doing these edits in PS, or Lightroom?


John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 11):
One quick question...are you doing these edits in PS, or Lightroom?

RAW conversion with ACR, resizing in PS. Didn't do much else to your image than exposure/color, so those were all done using ACR.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 984 times:
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Here's another go at it...done on my work laptop and the colors look quite dull/flat to me, but will do my best not to oversaturate. Any better?



Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 338kb


[Edited 2012-08-13 12:56:33]


John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 978 times:
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Colors look generally ok, but too small to say much else.

User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 976 times:
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Quoting dlowwa (Reply 14):
too small to say much else

sorry....were you refering to the 650 px version? I have now edited the post to show a 1024 version instead.


John M - Aussie expat in the US
User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7318 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 954 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 15):
I have now edited the post to show a 1024 version instead.

Looks a bit red, but color is better overall than previously.

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