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So Close... But Still Rejected!  
User currently offlinesausten From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 138 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

G'day all,

Just had this one done for ''high in frame centered personal ''

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1344125794.5787sausten21361280.jpg

It had to be sooo close! I've seen (and posted) plenty of shots on a.net framed exactly the same. The centre of the shot is just above and to the right of the final ''a'' in ''Australia''.
EG
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qanta...d=8da7a0287b65aa351f230b4a51770327

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qanta...d=8da7a0287b65aa351f230b4a51770327

Thankfully over the last few years I've made my peace with these controversial rejections. I’ve come to accept that screeners are only human after all and that they do from time to time see things differently from me. I’ve also come to accept that my photography and editing skills are not always perfect!
So getting to my questions.
Firstly, is it really ‘’ high in frame’’ or is it worth an appeal?
Secondly; how can I appeal when I did not receive an email notification? I rarely receive these (maybe one in ten uploads) and yes, my email address is up to date and working fine!

Thanks for your help guys.
Steve

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User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2818 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Quoting sausten (Thread starter):
Firstly, is it really ‘’ high in frame’’ or is it worth an appeal?

Personally, I don't think it's high in the frame, but that's my eyes as I don't like aircraft too low, especially those with large tails such as the A380. I've had my fair share of rejections with the same problem! I can see why it may have been rejected for being too high, but I think you've got it about right for my taste. I would just re-upload it slightly lower in the frame.

Darren



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User currently offlineTonyholt777 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Quoting sausten (Thread starter):
It had to be sooo close! I've seen (and posted) plenty of shots on a.net framed exactly the same. The centre of the shot is just above and to the right of the final ''a'' in ''Australia''.

Hi Steve

I take it this was 1200 x 800? i quickly opened it in Photoshop (albeit it opened at 1280 on my screen) at either size if I place the ruler on the height (half) pixel point and draw across it comes out just under the 'a' . So a slight drop should 'centre' it on that basis for A.net I imagine. However, we could go on and on about what is the 'centre' of an aircraft (type) relative its place in the composition of the shot.

Hope that helps T


User currently offlinesausten From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Thanks for your input guys.

The image I uploaded was 1280 x 853 pxls. I've always used the crop tool in photoshop to ''centre' the aircraft. With a ratio 3:2 the centre point of the photo on my screen is just above and to the right of the 'a'.

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 2):
However, we could go on and on about what is the 'centre' of an aircraft (type) relative its place in the composition of the shot.

Yes, yes we could.


User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1648 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1233 times:
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Steve
For me that is high. The fin is an important part of the aircraft so the aircraft (ie the fin) is closer to the top of the frame than the wheels - there is masses of dead space at the bottom.

We are not looking for precision in centreing but for them to be about right and yours falls just the wrong side of that and whilst I have not seen it before I would probably have rejected it myself.

When we open images for screening the first thing we get is thumbnails for them all and a quick scan of those gives an excellent feel for centre. If in doubt when editing my own, I zoom them down to a small size to check for the feel for the overall composition of the shot.

It has a bit of a greeny yellow cast to it too I reckon.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlinesausten From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Thanks Mick.

So here is MK II

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...345250137.3199sausten21361280b.jpg

Slightly lower in frame and colour tweaked to remove the greeny yellow cast.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Steve


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1177 times:
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Quoting sausten (Reply 5):
So here is MK II

Should be ok.


User currently offlinesausten From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

Accepted earlier today.
Thanks for your help on this one guys.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qanta...d=8da7a0287b65aa351f230b4a51770327

Steve


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