jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1089 times:
Had the following rejection for: "Bad crop motiv soft personal", and I don't understand the "bad crop/motiv", how should I adjust it? The balance seems right to me with roughly equal space above/below the ac. I see the "soft" and another color issue to fix anyways, but need some help on the crop. Thanks.
jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1088 times:
Another for comment:
reject reason: "Oversaturated, magenta cast, dirty top right".
Oversaturated - maybe, with the sun at that direct angle, I think it looks about right?
Magenta cast - it was taken late afternoon near sunset and the clouds are going pink, but is the body of the aircraft really magenta?
Dirty - looked at my larger crop, and that's just the sky, not any dirt, though I can easily "clean" that if needed
I must say I can't see a magenta cast. The fuselage looks white to me so there's nothing you can do about the natural colour in the sky, it's just the time of day.
Quoting jpmagero (Reply 1): Dirty - looked at my larger crop, and that's just the sky, not any dirt, though I can easily "clean" that if needed
In the far upper corner, it does look like it's a large dust spot rather than a cloud. It's easily removed though.
I'm surprised you didn't get a comment about noise as well. There's a little noticeable noise in the sky although it's probably marginal as to whether it's acceptable or not. I never know what the standard is here with regards to noise these days, it seems inconsistant.
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jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1067 times:
Thanks Darren - I am ok with putting these through the queue again, but I don't want to fix something that isn't broken, and if I can't see something after it's pointed out to me (magenta cast, crop, motive) then I will just leave as is - not much else I can do.
jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1054 times:
Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 2): In the far upper corner, it does look like it's a large dust spot rather than a cloud. It's easily removed though.
I see that, but I just checked my sequence of photos before and after and it's definitely not dust, it's just a darker portion of cloud. I could remove it to satisfy the screeners - not a big deal.
vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8194 posts, RR: 28 Reply 5, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1044 times:
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Just to add another opinion...
On the first one, my guess on the motive/crop is that you cut off the engine. Although, I'm not sure it would look any better with the whole engine there. Might be one of those aircraft that really only look good with either a tight crop on the nose, or to just forward of the wing, or the whole airplane in the frame.
On the second one, I can definitely see magenta in the sky and on the paved areas. I think it could stand to have some of that removed - I doubt you'd notice much difference in the white of the airplane, since it's so bright anyway. As for oversaturation, the green/yellow grass pops quite a bit, but doesn't quite look oversaturated to me. Though again, I'd say no harm in a slight reduction.
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NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 5672 posts, RR: 40 Reply 6, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1038 times:
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5): As for oversaturation, the green/yellow grass pops quite a bit, but doesn't quite look oversaturated to me.
I wonder if overcontrasted would have been a better rejection 'reason' - it seems like part of it may have been caused from the contrast slider too.
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5):
On the first one, my guess on the motive/crop is that you cut off the engine.
My thought too - it's only a little more to include the rest of the exhaust.
And with the magenta - I think it's pretty faint.. I mean I can see it but it by no means detracts from the image significantly enough for me to think of it as a rejection reason..
jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1037 times:
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5): my guess on the motive/crop is that you cut off the engine
could be...I figured that if I cropped just off the wing would be ok - I guess it's a question of preference in these cases. Will look for another shot there, since that is essentially out of the camera, though I do have others in the sequence to use instead, even though this is my preferred shot.
jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 999 times:
Here's another for some feedback, rejected for soft, dark:
soft - I'm having a hard time getting the balance right...getting some photos as both soft then over-sharpened with only the slightest tweak in between. My eyes tell me that this is not really that soft, but not sure I trust my eyes on this anymore.
dark - it was taken before sunrise, and I put that in the comment, so it's not going to be "bright" - the lighting is naturally soft. Should I just brighten it up, or just drop it as it will never be "bright" due to the natural lighting.
dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7227 posts, RR: 32 Reply 11, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 996 times:
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Quoting jpmagero (Reply 10): Here's another for some feedback, rejected for soft, dark:
Only a bit soft, but contrast probably should have been included with the rejection, as it's quite low. You should be able to adjust the brightness/contrast, see the left side:
jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 967 times:
quick pre-screening question: does this have a chance here? Was a quick shot without a lot of prep for the settings, though I quite like the view of the plane coming in for landing just ahead of the rain. Cheers.
jpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 months 22 hours ago) and read 907 times:
Help...I still don't see it...it's the same shot I had here before, the plane is white, any cast in the ground has to be the real color. Worth an appeal or just give it up?
Reject reason: ground still has a purple cast oversharpened contrast colour personal
dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7227 posts, RR: 32 Reply 16, posted (7 months 9 hours ago) and read 884 times:
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Don't think those rejection reasons were quite correct; for me it would have been a color & overexposed rejection. There is a magenta (similar to purple I guess) cast. See the adjusted left side:
dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7227 posts, RR: 32 Reply 24, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 701 times:
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Still borderline, but not sure how much better you'll be able to do. If you're happy with it, just give it a go as it is.
25 jpmagero: I'm thinking of appealing this, as I don't agree that the contrast is too high, nor that the image is grainy. It first got rejected for dark, and I br
26 dazbo5: I don't agree the contrast is too high, it looks about right to me but there is noticable grain. Given it's a shot taken after sunset and you may hav
27 jpmagero: exactly...it's taken before sunrise, using a low ISO and long exposure using a remote. After the first "dark" rejection I brightened it up (a lot bri
29 jpmagero: "Screener rejection correct" oh well, moving on.
30 jpmagero: Have given it one more go...am worried that the NR may have softened up the underbelly too much, do you think it's ok? or too much? http://www.airline
31 dlowwa: I would give it a little more sharpening, but otherwise I think it should be ok (as I indicated above).
32 jpmagero: Done...thanks for the feedback. Here's one I uploaded...I like the shot - considering it's from inside the aircraft, but not sure if this would be ba
33 jpmagero: Rejected for "quality soft". http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...48n949fr_krsw_20121027_1024_v2.jpg The silhouette of the aircraft is not soft, so
34 dlowwa: No, as I mentioned above, that would be irrelevant - the problem is with the quality of the aircraft.
35 jpmagero: HI - been a while. Got a bunch of rejections that I would like some feedback on. Thanks! 1: [backlit; needs more contrast dark contrast personal] The
36 dlowwa: Might be salvageable with a better edit, but backlit or not the light is borderline. Yes, looks a little flat. A bit soft towards the nose, with mayb
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I don't think we'll be judging solar sharpness. The aircraft does look a little soft/blurry though.
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