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User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3615 times:
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opening a new thread for my uploads, the old one has been locked.

Please comment on these two new uploads, which one to keep? probably can not have both because of the double rule.

These are the first 787 flight arriving at ORD, I like the second one better because the angle probably will be a bit different with others and the 320 adds some interest too. but the light was not as good, so I hope it can make it, what do you think? Thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/q1352305179.4263dsc_3294-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/u1352305303.0841dsc_3303-2.jpg

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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3616 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Thread starter):
probably can not have both because of the double rule.

Indeed, you should submit only one.

Quoting powwwiii (Thread starter):
the light was not as good, so I hope it can make it, what do you think?

Light looks fine for both, though the first has a moderately strong yellow tint.


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3615 times:
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thanks Dana. just got the second one accepted, hope ppl like it.

Please comment on these rejections, both for cyan tint, I thought they are already a bit yellow, what do you think? Thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1113_a1352339879.782dsc_3167-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...113_p1352305044.3595dsc_3288-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1113_h1352343539.221dsc_3626-3.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-13 16:39:17]

User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3615 times:

UA 738 - more of a cast here than on the others, that's for sure; if that helps, I'm not too sure.. It only really exists towards the nose.
I see no cyan on the BR MD11.
I hardly see a cyan cast on the A320.. If there was one, it's extremely faint. I'd probably add a wee bit more contrast to this one if you were going to edit it further..



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 2):
Please comment on these rejections, both for cyan tint, I thought they are already a bit yellow, what do you think?

Yes, they all have color casts to varying degrees. Cyan/green on the two UA, and I'd say the BR is also a bit oversaturated. Check out the right side of the two below which I've adjusted:

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/6883/20121113a1352339879782d.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img231/3673/20121113p13523050443595.jpg


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3615 times:
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Thanks NZ107, and thank Dana for the edition, now I can see the color tint.

Now, these two new rejections are for grainy and soft, I have taken many pictures with similar light condition, ISO was still 200 I believe, same work flow as many accepted pictures, never had a grainy rejection, soft is different question. so I want to ask for a second opinion to see if you see grainy and soft. thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...114_w1352419223.5354dsc_1468-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...114_v1352419729.8835dsc_1480-2.jpg


User currently offlineJKPhotos From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Hi,

I can see the grain in the first one, but it is minimal.
The rejection is probably a bit hard.

But you can easily remove it with a noise reduction-tool.


And at least with my camera I do sometimes have a slightly grainy sky even with ISO200, too.



Personally I don't see the first one as soft but the second one is indeed a little bit soft. It should be better with some extra-sharpening.


But there are probably better judges on soft rejections than me.


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 5):
Now, these two new rejections are for grainy and soft,

I see a tiny bit of noise, but not enough to warrant a rejection. Same for the softness.


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3611 times:
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Thanks Dana, here are some more grainy rejections, which I feel also not guaranteed, please take a look and comment, thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...121120_p1352834490.008dsc_3323.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...21120_b1352834423.1519dsc_3321.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...21120_h1352834125.8222dsc_3316.jpg this one also oversharpened?

and this last one was for soft, really soft?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...21120_w1352834213.5255dsc_3317.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3601 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 8):
Thanks Dana, here are some more grainy rejections, which I feel also not guaranteed,

Not sure what you mean about them being 'guaranteed' (did you mean warranted?), but I don't see noise being an issue with any of them.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 8):
this one also oversharpened?

I see some jaggies on the leading edges, but otherwise not too bad.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 8):
and this last one was for soft, really soft?

Doesn't seem really soft to me.


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3567 times:
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thanks Dana, yes I meant "warranted". those are all fine now.

Here are a few new uploads, please comment on the quality, I am not sure about the color of them mostly. Thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/z1353905161.3802dsc_3532-3.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/u1353906282.5582dsc_3471.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/f1353906430.5145dsc_3507-4.jpg


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 10):

Colour seems ok.. But I'd probably tone down the images - the 2 E170s seem a bit overexposed for my liking.. Another sharpening pass could also be beneficial.



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User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3518 times:
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Thanks NZ107.

I just recently got a new monitor, seems the color and brightness are different with the old one, probably my eyes are already used to the old one. Please help me to calibrate my eyes to the new monitor. Here are three new uploads, please comment on the quaility, especially color, brightness, etc. Thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../ready/b1354574460.773dsc_3787.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/n1354574590.8434dsc_3923.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/v1354581949.1399dsc_3572-4.jpg


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

AA and B6 seem ok.. I'd be inclined to add a bit more contrast to the UA 753. It just feels a little flat, especially under the wings and around the undercarriage.


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User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3411 times:
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Thanks NZ107, that was very helpful.

Some reupload, this one was rejected for color and soft. now it is better? thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/q1355601873.5629dsc_4412-3.jpg

and the next one was for low contrast, now looks ok?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/n1355601179.8156dsc_4456-6.jpg

Thanks!


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

Both look yellow and a touch bright, but otherwise ok.

User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 days ago) and read 3361 times:
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Thanks Dana, they have been corrected and re-uploaded.

Here are two new uploads, please comment on them, thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/n1356054345.4724dsc_6300-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/f1356055087.7291dsc_6321-3.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 16):
Here are two new uploads, please comment on them

Color is off, cyan cast or worse. Look at the top of the fuselage of the 67, the color is different than the rest. I see my fair share of AC aircraft, and can't say I've ever seen a similar effect.


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3333 times:
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Thanks Dana, I give up on that 767, but re-work a bit on the 319, hope it is passable now?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/n1356135855.3252dsc_6321-4.jpg

And uploaded a new one, the lighting was quite difficult, please see if it gets a chance, thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/d1356138286.8474dsc_3991.jpg


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 18):
re-work a bit on the 319, hope it is passable now?

No, still green/cyan.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 18):
And uploaded a new one,

A touch bright.


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3226 times:
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thanks Dana!

Here are a few new uploads, would like to ask for any comments.

Like this parallet approach, especially all 3 are United 319s, so any problem with this one?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/z1357535714.2432dsc_4495.jpg

the second one would be a new addition to the database, I like to have the tower in the picture, so the crop/center is a problem?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/n1357535954.8529dsc_4285.jpg

those fence and lights are problems for the third one?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/t1357536821.4195dsc_4524.jpg

Thanks in advance!


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

1. A bit soft, possibly due to the noise reduction and still a little flat.
2. Might be ok but to me, it doesn't really add too much to the picture. Seems a little on the cool side too.
3. It's low in the frame to begin with and the other bits are distracting, especially the overhead light.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 20):
Like this parallet approach, especially all 3 are United 319s, so any problem with this one?

Needs cw rotation.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 20):
the second one

Borderline, but might be passable.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 21):
Seems a little on the cool side too.

Color is fine.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 20):
those fence and lights are problems for the third one?

Yes, very distracting, especially whatever's in the foreground. Also a bit dark.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 21):
It's low in the frame to begin with

No, centering is fine.


User currently onlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3190 times:
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thanks Dana, I made corrections accordingly.

Just got a rejection for soft, now resized the picture to 1100, so it looks sharp enough? Thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/m1357698182.0201dsc_3489-3.jpg


User currently offlineaussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3180 times:
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Quoting powwwiii (Reply 23):

Still looks soft around the nose,left wing and along the fuselage-All the windows look quite soft.

Cheers Mark


25 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Mark, so try one more time with more sharpening, how it looks now? http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/u1357706823.8745dsc_3489-4.jpg
26 aussie18 : Still quite soft around the center part of fuselage,made tad blurry the center windows above wing. Cheers Mark
27 Post contains links powwwiii : thanks Mark! got this one rejected for the crop too tight, I used to like to crop a bit tight, maybe too tight, but seems not a problem for upload, so
28 DL747 : Crop is a bit too tight for my eyes. It makes the plane look to be at a very strange angle. I think a bit looser crop would benefit.
29 Post contains links powwwiii : thanks DL747. got two rejections, first one was for soft, and second one is for color. Please help me to see what I can do to re-edit. Dana, pleae hel
30 dlowwa : Both look a little yellow, and the first is a touch soft. Should be easy fixes.
31 powwwiii : thanks Dana for the quick response, corrected and reuploaded!
32 Post contains links powwwiii : Hi there, this is a new upload, please comment on it, color, brightness or anything else? Thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/v135912
33 DL747 : Looks a bit low in the frame for me. Also, might be a bit harsh. Looks good to me other than that.
34 Post contains links powwwiii : thanks DL747. Got two rejections for grainy, these were taken at sunset, so lighting was not really good, any chance to fix them? although I could not
35 DL747 : Yeah, I don't see that much grain either. You'll have to wait for further input on that one.
36 Post contains links powwwiii : thanks DL747. got this rejection for cyan cast and overexposure. but I only adjust the white balance very little to get rid of the yellow cast, now cy
37 DL747 : Looks a bit cyan, yes. It appears the whites are a bit too strong, not sure if it is fixable. The SA symbol especially looks a bit blown out.
38 dlowwa : Overexposed, soft, and more yellow than cyan. It seems you have more problems with color than most. Perhaps there is an issue somewhere, either with
39 powwwiii : Thanks Dana, this one was shot around 4pm here, so sun was low and light was warm. I corrected the exposure. But soft? I thought it was OK. I did get
40 Post contains links powwwiii : Re-uploading some pictures, Dana please help to see if they are fine now, they were rejected for color and soft. Thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addp
41 dlowwa : 319 is a touch dark & cyan; 57 is a bit bright/contrasty.
42 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana, those have been corrected, hopefully they are fine now. Got a few rejections, and this one was for oversharpened to compensate a blurry/s
43 dlowwa : Yeah, hard to judge the sharpening on that one. All that wording/advertising on the aircraft is either going to look too soft, or oversharpened. Not s
44 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana! I have a few rejections on a few 57s. one I just can not get the color right, I might need maybe Dana to help me with the processing, can
45 dlowwa : Color's a bit off again on the first two, but otherwise they should be fine. Third one indeed has a cyan cast.
46 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana! got 12 rejections today, mostly for dark, kind of surprise for me, will you please take a look? also I am uploading some new ones, please
47 dlowwa : Not much aircraft visible on the first, so motive would be a concern. Second has a very strong yellow cast. Sorry, I'm not going to go looking throug
48 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana! Here is a new upload, please comment on it, dark? soft? Thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/i1363391186.6783dsc_6526.jpg
49 dlowwa : Maybe a slight cyan cast, but I don't see it being too dark or soft.
50 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana. Here are a couple of new uploads, please comment on their quailities, thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/f1364089909.55
51 dlowwa : They look decent for the size, but as always, your chances of acceptance go down the larger you submit them at. The second has a slight cyan hue.
52 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana! Resubmitting a couple, this 748F is sharp enought now? http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/m1364741443.3997dsc_5981-7.jpg and this
53 dlowwa : Should be ok for sharpness. Not a good idea unless you are looking to receive a warning/ban for re-uploading. I don't see them as being too noisy, bu
54 powwwiii : Thanks again, Dana. That UA 772 was for Dark and Level, I brighten it up a bit. But based on the tower, I feel the level is fine. Definitely not looki
55 dlowwa : If you don't agree with a rejection, the proper recourse is to appeal. Simply uploading it again unchanged because you don't agree will get you a war
56 Post contains links powwwiii : OK, I re-worked on that UA 772, less brightening and some CCW. Also trying to avoid bandings, I actually decrease the sharpening a little bit, and the
57 dlowwa : Banding is less evident, so whatever you did has affected it - most likely the noise reduction.
58 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana, I think I learned something new about sharpening and NR. Anyway, got this one rejected for overexposed again after a re-edit. I really do
59 angad84 : you do have a couple of reflections that are clipped (or close to clipped) but I have a feeling you could appeal that successfully. OR - kick up the s
60 dlowwa : Would be better with a slight reduction in brightness.
61 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks Dana, very slightly reduced the brightness on that one and resubmitted. Also resubmitting this one, it was rejected for cyan tint, heat haze an
62 dlowwa : I can still see it on the nose gear, though you might get away with it at this smaller size.
63 Post contains links powwwiii : Thank you Dana! Here are a few new uploads, please comment on their quality. This AA is dark? http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/k1366244317.2
64 dlowwa : No. A touch, yes. Definitely not. Actually a little yellow. Not meaning to offend, but do you perhaps have issues with color blindness? It could be t
65 powwwiii : Thanks Dana, I don't really think I am color blind. I can tell there is a color difference when I adjust the color temperature, my problem is I have n
66 dlowwa : In most cases, yes.
67 Post contains links powwwiii : Thanks for clear that up, Dana. This China Southern was rejected for oversharpening, as it was like this: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0421_
68 Post contains links and images dlowwa : No, still looks pretty bad. I assume a fair amount of heat haze you tried to fix by oversharpening? Again, whatever you are (or aren't) doing in rega
69 powwwiii : Thank you Dana, I try to adjust the tint to remove the yellow, but doing that I also can see the image become purple or magenta, I am wondering how yo
70 dlowwa : Simple adjustment to the hue. I would guess it's something you're doing with the white balance or maybe saturation. Are you setting the white balance
71 powwwiii : so you just add more blue hue to the image to remove the yellow? or just decrease yellow? I tried to play with hue in LR but seem the effects were not
72 Post contains links powwwiii : Got these two rejected for soft, or quality, I think both are ok in term of the sharpness, what do you think? Thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addphot
73 Post contains links powwwiii : Hi, just got these two rejected for dark, I don't really feel they are too dark, what do you think? Thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...306
74 mjgbtv : I think that is correct. Check the histogram; there is empty space on the right side.
75 dlowwa : UA could stand some brightening, and while the LH is also a touch dark, it's probably ok as is. I'd appeal that one.
76 powwwiii : Thanks Dana, also got your message, thought I could resubmit the appeal with more specific reason, but found once I removed it from the appeal queue,
77 Post contains links powwwiii : Here are two new uploads, first is a 748i cockpit, my question is for cockpit/cabin shots, does everything need to be in focus? like this example, I h
78 angad84 : The cockpit shot looks all right. I've seen plenty of shots in the DB with out of focus seats in the foreground. I think everyone recognizes that shoo
79 Post contains links powwwiii : Thank angad84. Just got this one rejected for overexposed, which I don't agree, nothing blown out and I am thinking about appealing this one, what do
80 vikkyvik : Doesn't look overexposed to me, but looks like there might be window reflections/spots.
81 powwwiii : Thanks Vikkyvik, you mean the runway area? I looked carefully, does not seem like reflections to me.
82 mjgbtv : I see some streaks/patches in the lower left quadrant that look like they might be reflections.
83 powwwiii : I think those are something on the runway, they appear to be vertical to the length of the runway, nothing from inside of the aircraft would have that
84 Post contains links powwwiii : Here is another upload, do you think this backlit one would work? Thanks! http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/h1371269017.1515dsc_2493.jpg
85 vikkyvik : Works for me.
86 powwwiii : Thank Vikkyvik. To my surprise, I noticed Dana's post. Just want to say that Dana you have been so helpful for me, many many thanks and best wishes!
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