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User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Hello. I'd like feedback on these pictures below.  

PRE-SCREENING:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342Edit.jpg

I really appreciate all the advice.


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User currently offlinenikog From Israel, joined Sep 2006, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Hi,

First one is dirty, flat and soft.
The second is dark, blurry and soft and dirty also.

Gregory



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User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

I've made some changes. Are they any better?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998EditII.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII.jpg



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User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Another shot:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 2):
I've made some changes.

Still multiple dust spots on the first, and at least one on the second.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 3):
Another shot:

Soft, and very low contrast.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Thank you dlowwa and nikog for the input.

How do they look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998EditII-1.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-1.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-1.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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First isn't dirty any more, but will be borderline for grainy/quality. Second should be ok. Third still has low contrast.

User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Thank you. I think I shall scrap the Scoot 777 and put the Kalitta 747 in queue.

How is the contrast on the BA now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-2.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 7):
How is the contrast on the BA now?

Better, but quality will still be borderline.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 8):

Should I sharpen it further?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-3.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 9):
Should I sharpen it further?

No, it looks a little oversharpened already.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

What are ways to improve quality? I use a Canon EOS 550D with 15-85mm and 75-300mm lens.


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 11):
What are ways to improve quality?

That totally depends on what is causing the quality problems in the first place, which could be any number of things: poor lens, atmospheric conditions, shooting through glass, etc...


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):

Oh I see, thank you.

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I currently only have the Kalitta 747 in queue.

3 additional pictures: How are they?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1663Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1770Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3063Edit.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 13):
3 additional pictures: How are they?

Second one is a little bright but should otherwise stand a good chance. The first has issues with contrast (low) and sharpening (too much), while the third is pretty badly backlit and probably not fixable.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Ah, thanks a lot.

I'll scrap the SAS and EC Air and put the Air Berlin in queue.

How about these 3?

I'll put links instead, so it doesn't slow down the loading of the page.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359.jpg (Singapore Airlines A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586.jpg (Thai Airways A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3685.jpg (Japan Airlines B788)



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User currently offlineJKPhotos From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.
So better leave it for good and try to catch them again with more favourable conditions.



The first one looks okay to me, but my monitor is terrible, so better wait for another opinion.


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
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Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

I see little difference between the three, so why would the first be ok, but not the last two?

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.

Why would it not be fixable? It would only need adjustments to the exposure/contrast.

They are also soft and have multiple large dust spots. The foreground tree(s) are not adding much, so better to avoid them if possible.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

Thank you guys.  

Unfortunately, the Kalitta 747 was rejected for: "yellow cast color"

I edited it. How does it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-2.jpg (Kalitta 747)

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http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359-1.jpg (Singapore A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586-1.jpg (Thai A333)

I scrapped the JAL 787 and decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

 http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8682.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1238 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
I edited it. How does it look now?

Looks fine to me.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

Some editing halos, but otherwise ok.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days ago) and read 1224 times:

Thank you. The Kalitta 747 and the Emirates A332 are in queue, as well as the Singapore A333.

Is the Thai A333 ok as well, before uploading?

Plus another picture:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5524Edited-1.jpg

I'm not very sure about the whitebalance thing.  



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1210 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Is the Thai A333 ok as well

No, it is quite poor, sorry.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Plus another picture:

This has multiple issues (noise, exposure, color, softness/blur).


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day ago) and read 1199 times:

Ok, I'll scrap those two as well then.

How about these? Which of these two stands a better chance?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4027.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 1186 times:
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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 22):
Which of these two stands a better chance?

The first is better than the second, but it is soft.


User currently offlineSGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

How about now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020-1.jpg



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25 DL747 : Looks better to me, but the titles might be a bit oversharpened (for my taste, anyway.) But, I a still fairly new at this, so let Dana have a look.
26 Post contains links SGAviation : The link in Reply 24 is broken now. I unsharpened it a little now: http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg How are these two pi
27 dlowwa : You unsharpened it? Being soft implies that you should sharpen it more. In any case, the quality still looks borderline, as you can see it gets soft
28 Post contains links and images SGAviation : I sharpened it after your comment in Reply 23. The link in 24 got broken, then after DL747 commented, I unsharpened it very slightly. I guess it is t
29 dlowwa : Better crop, but again not the best light, which makes it a bit dark/contrasty. Looks like you sharpened more than just the edges of the frame. See h
30 Post contains links SGAviation : Edited: http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024Edit.jpg (QF A332) http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-2.
31 dlowwa : Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.
32 Post contains links and images SGAviation : Alrighty. I guess I'll try my luck and upload the QF A332. The Air Berlin 737-700 got rejected for: "Green/cyan cast" I have one spot left in the que
33 dlowwa : Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.
34 Post contains links and images SGAviation : Aww... ok. This one? http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514.jpg
35 dlowwa : Red cast and editing halos.
36 Post contains links SGAviation : http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-1.jpg How do you fix editing halos? I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.
37 dlowwa : Impossible to say without knowing what you are doing to introduce them. Halos are still pretty strong.
38 Post contains links SGAviation : Hmm, well I just shot normally in 'Automatic' mode. Didn't do anything out of the ordinary. Edited again: http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/74
39 dlowwa : Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.
40 Post contains links SGAviation : Omg, ok. I don't know what I did during editing to cause those halos. (Maybe I shouldn't have played Beyonce's 'Halo' on repeat) I think it was becau
41 dlowwa : Yes, the shadow/highlight tool will certainly introduce halos. No halos, but slightly red cast and harsh contrast. Very soft, almost blurry. Also, lo
42 Post contains links SGAviation : How about now? Scrapped the tail shot. http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142-1.jpg 2 more shots as well: http://i1205.photobucke
43 Post contains images SGAviation : The Kalitta 747 was accepted. The Singapore A333 was rejected because of the sky being grainy. If I sharpened the sky, would it work? The Emirates A33
44 Post contains links SGAviation : How about this one too? http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1542.jpg
45 dlowwa : A bit flat. Also some moiré on the cheat lines, but that's hard to avoid with such liveries.
46 Post contains links SGAviation : Thank you. How about this one? http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4352.jpg
47 dlowwa : Should be ok.
48 Post contains links SGAviation : Thank you. Can I have feedback on this one too? http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4533.jpg
49 DL747 : Looks a tad soft toward the front, and noisy. Also might be a bit flat. I am assuming this was at a higher ISO, as it looks very grainy.
50 dlowwa : Soft, but otherwise ok. No, it does not.
51 DL747 : Well, the upper left does, to me anyway. Unless it is clouds doing that, to me it looks noisy.
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