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SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Hello. I'd like feedback on these pictures below.

PRE-SCREENING:

I really appreciate all the advice.

"Boeing FTW!"

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nikog From Israel, joined Sep 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

Hi,

First one is dirty, flat and soft.
The second is dark, blurry and soft and dirty also.

Gregory

Gregory Verba

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

I've made some changes. Are they any better?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998EditII.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII.jpg

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SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Another shot:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 2):
I've made some changes.

Still multiple dust spots on the first, and at least one on the second.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 3):
Another shot:

Soft, and very low contrast.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Thank you dlowwa and nikog for the input.

How do they look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8998EditII-1.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-1.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-1.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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First isn't dirty any more, but will be borderline for grainy/quality. Second should be ok. Third still has low contrast.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Thank you. I think I shall scrap the Scoot 777 and put the Kalitta 747 in queue.

How is the contrast on the BA now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-2.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 7):
How is the contrast on the BA now?

Better, but quality will still be borderline.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 8):

Should I sharpen it further?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5792Edited-3.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 9):
Should I sharpen it further?

No, it looks a little oversharpened already.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1019 times:

What are ways to improve quality? I use a Canon EOS 550D with 15-85mm and 75-300mm lens.

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (6 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 11):
What are ways to improve quality?

That totally depends on what is causing the quality problems in the first place, which could be any number of things: poor lens, atmospheric conditions, shooting through glass, etc...

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):

Oh I see, thank you.

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I currently only have the Kalitta 747 in queue.

3 additional pictures: How are they?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1663Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1770Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3063Edit.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 13):
3 additional pictures: How are they?

Second one is a little bright but should otherwise stand a good chance. The first has issues with contrast (low) and sharpening (too much), while the third is pretty badly backlit and probably not fixable.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Ah, thanks a lot.

I'll scrap the SAS and EC Air and put the Air Berlin in queue.

How about these 3?

I'll put links instead, so it doesn't slow down the loading of the page.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359.jpg (Singapore Airlines A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586.jpg (Thai Airways A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3685.jpg (Japan Airlines B788)

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JKPhotos From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.
So better leave it for good and try to catch them again with more favourable conditions.

The first one looks okay to me, but my monitor is terrible, so better wait for another opinion.

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

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Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

I see little difference between the three, so why would the first be ok, but not the last two?

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.

Why would it not be fixable? It would only need adjustments to the exposure/contrast.

They are also soft and have multiple large dust spots. The foreground tree(s) are not adding much, so better to avoid them if possible.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1013 times:

Thank you guys.

Unfortunately, the Kalitta 747 was rejected for: "yellow cast color"

I edited it. How does it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-2.jpg (Kalitta 747)

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http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359-1.jpg (Singapore A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586-1.jpg (Thai A333)

I scrapped the JAL 787 and decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8682.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 997 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
I edited it. How does it look now?

Looks fine to me.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

Some editing halos, but otherwise ok.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 months 12 hours ago) and read 983 times:

Thank you. The Kalitta 747 and the Emirates A332 are in queue, as well as the Singapore A333.

Is the Thai A333 ok as well, before uploading?

Plus another picture:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5524Edited-1.jpg

I'm not very sure about the whitebalance thing.

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (6 months 6 hours ago) and read 969 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Is the Thai A333 ok as well

No, it is quite poor, sorry.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Plus another picture:

This has multiple issues (noise, exposure, color, softness/blur).

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 958 times:

Ok, I'll scrap those two as well then.

How about these? Which of these two stands a better chance?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4027.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 945 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 22):
Which of these two stands a better chance?

The first is better than the second, but it is soft.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 934 times:

How about now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020-1.jpg

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DL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 925 times:

Looks better to me, but the titles might be a bit oversharpened (for my taste, anyway.) But, I a still fairly new at this, so let Dana have a look.

Just like the shirt says, Boeing Builds It Better!

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 922 times:

The link in Reply 24 is broken now.

I unsharpened it a little now:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

How are these two pictures as well?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5663Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-25 00:55:28]

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 27, posted (5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 927 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 26):
I unsharpened it a little now:

You unsharpened it? Being soft implies that you should sharpen it more. In any case, the quality still looks borderline, as you can see it gets soft toward the edges. There is some chromatic aberration visible there as well, which would indicate the lack of quality is likely due to your lens.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 26):
How are these two pictures as well?

First is blurry and unlevel, second is not bad, but again a little soft toward the edges.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 919 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 27):
You unsharpened it?

I sharpened it after your comment in Reply 23. The link in 24 got broken, then after DL747 commented, I unsharpened it very slightly.

I guess it is time to upgrade the lens.

I really would like to upload that QF A332 since it's new (delivered just this morning in SYD from TLS via SIN)

How about this new one to work with?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024.jpg

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Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-1.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 29, posted (5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 901 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28):
How about this new one to work with?

Better crop, but again not the best light, which makes it a bit dark/contrasty.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28):
Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?

Looks like you sharpened more than just the edges of the frame. See how the middle is oversharpened now.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 894 times:

Edited:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024Edit.jpg (QF A332)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-2.jpg (AB A320)

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 31, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 874 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 30):
Edited

Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 848 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31):
Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.

Alrighty. I guess I'll try my luck and upload the QF A332.

The Air Berlin 737-700 got rejected for: "Green/cyan cast"

I have one spot left in the queue, so how about this one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9433.jpg

Thank you once again for all the advice.

[Edited 2012-11-27 00:55:00]

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 33, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 832 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 32):
so how about this one?

Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 820 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 33):
Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.

Aww... ok. This one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 35, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 816 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 34):
This one?

Red cast and editing halos.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 817 times:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-1.jpg

How do you fix editing halos?

I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 37, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 793 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 36):
How do you fix editing halos?

Impossible to say without knowing what you are doing to introduce them.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 36):
I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.

Halos are still pretty strong.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 781 times:

Hmm, well I just shot normally in 'Automatic' mode. Didn't do anything out of the ordinary.

Edited again:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-2.jpg

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 39, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 764 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 38):
Edited again:

Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 745 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 39):
Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.

Omg, ok.

I don't know what I did during editing to cause those halos. (Maybe I shouldn't have played Beyonce's 'Halo' on repeat)

I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings, I'm not too sure.

I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142.jpg

I also would like feedback on another shot as well:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5805.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-30 01:29:00]

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dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 41, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 742 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings

Yes, the shadow/highlight tool will certainly introduce halos.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:

No halos, but slightly red cast and harsh contrast.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I also would like feedback on another shot as well:

Very soft, almost blurry. Also, lots of wasted space at 3:2.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 736 times:

How about now? Scrapped the tail shot.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142-1.jpg

2 more shots as well:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9891.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9727.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 715 times:

The Kalitta 747 was accepted.

The Singapore A333 was rejected because of the sky being grainy. If I sharpened the sky, would it work?

The Emirates A332 was rejected for blurry nose.

"Boeing FTW!"

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 666 times:

How about this one too?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1542.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 45, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 645 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 43):
How about this one too?

A bit flat. Also some moiré on the cheat lines, but that's hard to avoid with such liveries.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 579 times:

Thank you.

How about this one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4352.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 47, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 568 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 46):
How about this one?

Should be ok.

SGAviation From Singapore, joined Dec 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 553 times:

Thank you.

Can I have feedback on this one too?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4533.jpg

"Boeing FTW!"

DL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 537 times:

Looks a tad soft toward the front, and noisy. Also might be a bit flat. I am assuming this was at a higher ISO, as it looks very grainy.

Just like the shirt says, Boeing Builds It Better!

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7238 posts, RR: 32
Reply 50, posted (5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 536 times:

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Quoting SGAviation (Reply 48):
Can I have feedback on this one too?

Soft, but otherwise ok.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 49):
as it looks very grainy.

No, it does not.

DL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 535 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 50):

Well, the upper left does, to me anyway. Unless it is clouds doing that, to me it looks noisy.

Just like the shirt says, Boeing Builds It Better!

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