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Post Screening: Contrast Flat?

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13
Posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Hello screeners/members,

I got my two below photos rejected for having a flat contrast. As I disagree with this I would like your opinion:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...52297141.7807ab332rccur061112c.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...52297655.8464kl744rccur061112c.jpg

Cheers,

A388

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JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Hi Roger,

Both look a bit 'milky', and the colour looks off to me on the Air Berlin (the red looks a bit pink).

Cheers,

Karl

alevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 804 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 477 times:

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Hello Roger -

I would say the same Karl has - the KLM slightly milky/flat, the Air Berlin red colours are really missing contrast.

Pete

Improvise, adapt, overcome.

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 477 times:

Are these better?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...52835314.8146ab332rccur061112d.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...52835360.1619kl744rccur061112d.jpg

A388

JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Hi Roger,

The KLM looks good, although I would personally just add a touch more contrast. The Berlin I'd say still needs quite a bit more, and the pink cast looks quite pronounced now.

Cheers,

Karl

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 4):
The Berlin I'd say still needs quite a bit more, and the pink cast looks quite pronounced now.

Where do you see pink exactly? The red colors on the livery to me are clearly red and not pink. Please let me know.

A388

dlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7245 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 477 times:

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Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
The red colors on the livery to me are clearly red and not pink.

You might want to adjust your monitor if that is the case, the color is quite washed out.

JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Hi Roger,

While I agree that the colour is indeed red, it does have a pink hue to it. I shoot a lot of Air Berlins and have become used to what type of red they use to paint their aircraft. This is how I'd expect it to look...

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Cheers,

Karl

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Is this better?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...52913243.7571ab332rccur061112f.jpg

A388

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 477 times:

It can also be that the red is just fading on the aircraft itself because the red on all my photos really is the color on the aircraft. It's not as red as the ones posted in reply 7. Or can the position of the sun also have an effect on how the red color is seen?

A388

vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8220 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 477 times:

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Quoting A388 (Reply 9):
Or can the position of the sun also have an effect on how the red color is seen?

Absolutely. I love shooting Air Berlin in the evening, because the sunset colors really bring out the red colors.

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):

I would use a 3:2 crop on these photos. This one looks slightly high in the frame, and I don't see the need for all the grass included at the bottom.

In all the photos that have been rejected for contrast, it looks to me like I would bring the black slider up a bit, but also darken the midtones a bit. I've found that's a good way to get rid of the washed-out look, and it should help the red look more red.

"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.

JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Hi Roger,

The sun's position can of course alter colour but I doubt to the extent of that in your Air Berlin shot. The faded theory is plausible but I shot the exact same aircraft in September this year and the red was typical Air Berlin red - i.e. not faded.

I'd try increasing the contrast once again (it still could go a lot higher without being over-done) and just bringing down the brightness slightly, as the whites in places look a little bright.

Karl

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 477 times:

Okay, I've taken your tips now so is this better?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...52917165.3965ab332rccur061112g.jpg

A388

vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8220 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 477 times:

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Quoting A388 (Reply 12):

Looks better color/contrast-wise. Still would crop it at 3:2 and lower it slightly in the frame.

"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.