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User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
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Hello

Please could I get some feedback on the photo below, it was taken in the evening, and there was a lot of cloud around. I am not sure about the lighting and the contrast mainly. If there is anything please let me know.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8182938500_68ff9d58c9_b.jpg
ZS-SJL13NOV12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thanks

William

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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

Quoting whales (Thread starter):
Please could I get some feedback on the photo below

You're right, the light isn't the best. It's also oversharpened.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
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Hi Dana

Thank you for your reply, if I reduced the sharpening, would the light be passable?

Thanks

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1577 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 2):
if I reduced the sharpening, would the light be passable?

Probably not, it's pretty poor.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
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Hi Dana

Thank you for your advice, I will put it in the personal album.

I have 2 photos below which I would like feed back on please.

1. Level, I have used the horizon for this, but am not sure about it, and anything else.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8488/8185718031_0070188b0d_b.jpg
ZS-OKG14NOV12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


2. Motive, the pilot and co pilot are doing pre flight checks would this be cause for motive? and anything else please.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8185724851_53bdf52cc5_b.jpg
Z-YXV31OCT12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


Thank you

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1578 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 4):
1. Level

Level ok, but there are some quality issues (ovesharpened, noise)

Quoting whales (Reply 4):
Motive, the pilot and co pilot are doing pre flight checks would this be cause for motive?

Better without them, but should be passable with. As with the window view, it is oversharpened.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1482 times:
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Thanks for the replies Dana, I have been away for 3 weeks after an op, but am back again.

I have another 3 photos I would like some general feed back on, which of 1 or 2 would be better for upload?

1.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8339/8185897696_612859b291_b.jpg
Z-YXV01NOV12a by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

2.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8185893864_7bb8977d2c_b.jpg
Z-YXV14NOV121 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

3.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8480/8244318017_66bfb63d4b_b.jpg
ZU-SEA03DEC121a by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thank you

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 6):
which of 1 or 2 would be better

Both have harsh light, but it's worse on the second. First is noticeably oversharpened. Third also a bit overexposed/harsh light.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
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Thanks Dana for your help, I will drop the second and try and rework 1 and 3.

Cheers

William


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
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Hello

I have a couple of photos that I would like some feed back on.

1. I am not sure about the contrast and any other problems

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8337/8248158030_f7418df90e_b.jpg
ZS-OKK15OCT12b by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


2. General feed back for this one please.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8199/8245444338_5ef2f3ef33_b.jpg
ZS-PMV03DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thank you

William


User currently offlineairkas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1428 times:

Nice shots! I especially like the first one  
The second one seems unlevel (judging the horizon), but looks fine otherwise(?)


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1427 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 9):

2. General feed back for this one please.

Looks like very harsh light, as mentioned above. Also looks a bit dark up front and soft, especially towards the registration. Might need a bit of CCW, also.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1422 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 9):
1. I am not sure about the contrast and any other problems

Bit flat & noisy, also slight orange tinge. May be fixable.

Quoting whales (Reply 9):
2. General feed back for this one please.

Overexposed, verging on blown out in some areas. Not sure what horizon the others are seeing, all I see are trees, so the level is probably best left as you have it.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):
Not sure what horizon the others are seeing

I wasn't basing the level off the horizon, because as you said there isn't one. I just thought it looked a little leany. One of those eye things, I wasn't basing my level off any object.  



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User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1412 times:
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Thanks everyone for the comments, I will work on them when I am back at my desk top.

Cheers

William


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1391 times:
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Hi

I have another 2 photos, for general feed back, and which of the 2 would be better for A.net?

1.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8504/8256235575_a0b0113681_b.jpg
ZS-OKK09DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

2.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8357/8256256725_69887f5c72_b.jpg
ZS-OKK09DEC121 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


Thanks

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 15):
which of the 2 would be better for A.net?

Don't see a large difference between the two, so that would be up to you.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1368 times:
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Thanks Dana.

I have another photo which I not sure about the level, I have used 2 poles to the right of the 738, and any other issues with the photo.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8075/8262172372_14525d136a_b.jpg
ZS-SNC10DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thanks

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 17):
I have another photo

Level, maybe a touch ccw. Also oversharpened.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1365 times:
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Thanks Dana

I will attend to it.

William


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1355 times:
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Hi

I have the photo below, and was wondering if it stood any chance at all, as the light is harsh.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8210/8265174618_d5af541c77_b.jpg
ZS-SND11DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

I have another photo here and was wanting general feedback and was wondering about motive?

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8265338228_17599cea69_b.jpg
3B-NAY11DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thanks

William

[Edited 2012-12-11 12:05:39]

User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 20):
I have the photo below, and was wondering if it stood any chance at all

You -might- be able to get a decent edit out of it, but it's quite oversharpened and noisy as it is.

Quoting whales (Reply 20):
I have another photo

Would definitely benefit from a 3:4 crop instead of 2:3, and there are some minor quality issues (noise, contrast).


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1282 times:
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Hi Dana

Thanks for the reply, I am reworking them.

I have another photo below and was wondering if there was any of getting on? It is backlit.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8342/8285204024_99aaebc4e6_b.jpg
ET-AOQ17DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Cheers

William


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

Nice shot, but I don't think it has a shot due to being backlit, as the sky is almost blown out and also all of the obstructions (ie, wing and box in the upper right.)


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

It has chance if you can fix the contrast (too low), and dial-down the sharpening, which is quite strong.

User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

So it can be fixed even with that box in the upper right? But, Andrew's photo for a slight gear block is rejected. Now that confuses me, just saying, I think that's a bit harsh. I like the photo a lot, but when we are getting rejections for having +1 too much contrast, that gets accepted with the wing in the way and that box along with a marginally blown out sky?


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 26, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1270 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 25):
But, Andrew's photo for a slight gear block is rejected. Now that confuses me

Perhaps you should read the motive rules then. Aircraft obstructed = motive. The aircraft is not obstructed above.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 25):
So it can be fixed
Quoting DL747 (Reply 25):
that gets accepted

I said it would have a chance.

If you have nothing constructive to add, perhaps it would be better if you refrained from posting.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

First off, I have read the motive rules, as you yourself suggested earlier, also, the gear obstruction was barely noticeable. I think these obstructions are distracting, imho. I did have constructive criticism in my first reply. And, I will refrain from posting, I meant no disrespect or bad intentions, I just think it is a bit confusing and I think it should be changed.


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User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1254 times:
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Thanks Dana

I will try work on what you have said. I have another photo below taken in very bright conditions what do you think?

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8287141009_7876fd8b56_b.jpg
Z-WGW14NOV12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thanks again.

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 29, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 28):
I have another photo

A little overexposed and oversharpened.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
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Hi Dana

Thanks again Dana I will work on it. I have another below and am not sure about motive.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8497/8293811473_612f894b51_b.jpg
ZS-OTF21DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thanks

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 31, posted (1 year 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 30):
I have another below and am not sure about motive.

Kind of interesting motive, but would likely need more opinions. However, multiple severe quality issues that would need to be sorted (if even possible) first.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1148 times:
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Hi Dana

Thanks for your help and advice on the Air Mauritius photo in reply 20, it was accepted today. Also a big thank you for all your help and advice throughout 2012, it has been very much appreciated. I hope 2013 is a great year for you.

Kind regards

William


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1111 times:
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Hi All

I had this rejected for contrast to start with, I added more contrast. It was then rejected for level, it said cw needed, I appealed it, but have not recieved the email, but still says level, and they have added contrast again. I do not believe there is anything wrong with the level, I have used the posts as my levelling measur as they have the most amount of area to work with. Is this site wanting us to use protractors now? If it is out, it is no more than 0.05 of a degree out! I have double checked in CS5 with the grids, and it showing as level. The contrast does it need more or less?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...t1356508243.471c9-aum06dec121b.jpg


Thank you

William


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1098 times:
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Hi All

I have also had the following photo rejected for level, quality, noise, oversharpened and dark. I do not see any of the rejection reasons, please can I have some help. If I brighten the picture, the fuselage will then be done for overexposed, the level according to the tower in back ground in the middle of the photo is showing it is level.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._x1356507546.5984zs-sxa26dec12.jpg

Below I have attempted a re edit. What do you think?

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8356/8342451047_f4517b8aeb_b.jpg
ZS-SXA03JAN13 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

Thank you

William

[Edited 2013-01-03 12:05:16]

User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
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Hi All

Another rejection, quality and soft. Quality rejection is such a vague rejection, even in the rejection guide. It would help if the screener elaborated on the quality, like they do with contrast and level and added a personal note. Is this picture salvageable? Please could you also tell me where it is soft.

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...v1356555235.0473zs-oag26dec12a.jpg

Thank you

William


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 36, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1086 times:

Quoting whales (Reply 33):
I had this rejected for contrast to start with, I added more contrast.

Looks like it needs more contrast and a little cw rotation.

Quoting whales (Reply 34):
I have also had the following photo rejected for level, quality, noise, oversharpened and dark. I do not see any of the rejection reasons,

The only one I would disagree with is dark. The rest were justified, as the quality is quite poor.

Quoting whales (Reply 35):
Another rejection, quality and soft.

Looks a little noisy too. If no other info is given, you can take a 'quality' rejection to mean your photo is not really close to being acceptable.


User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 863 times:
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Hello

I had the photo below rejected for various reasons twice, but none included level, now on the 3rd attempt it is done for level, I appealed it, it was rejected again for level, saying it needed some CW rotation. I don't see it, and I don't know what they are judging the level on. Please could I get some advice on how level this and what to gauge it on.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._h1358270471.7145zs-okh15jan13.jpg

Thanks

William


User currently onlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 913 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 849 times:

Hi William,

Some of the bands in the sky at the horizon do look off-level, but that does not mean they necessarily should be. I don't know what I would do differently.

What else was it rejected for? To me it looks fairly noisy/grainy and there might be some reflections as well, so that might be a bigger issue than the leveling.

It's a very nice shot, though!

Marty


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 841 times:

Kind of lost with what they would be judging the level on, I don' think you can judge level on clouds. They aren't always parallel to the horizon. I will let a screener explain that. The noise is pretty apparent and I am surprised it wasn't rejected for that as well.


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User currently offlinewhales From Zimbabwe, joined Oct 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 811 times:
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Hello again.

I was wondering if a screener would be able to help me out with my question above.

Thanks

William


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