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User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

Hello everyone, have had a couple photos rejected, but I have learned an immense deal already since joining. Thank you to all. I am wondering if these are any good for the queue. Any feedback/tips are appreciated. Thank you.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9063121...8231280486/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9063121...8230217521/sizes/l/in/photostream/

If they have quality issues, that is probably because I am resizing wrong. I would appreciate tips on that (I have a thread in the regular photog forum.) Thanks again!


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1502 times:

Both are dark and soft, and show jpeg compression. The softness and compression are perhaps fixable, but they are obviously backlit, which is not fixable. You will find it very difficult to get backlit shots accepted unless there is a motive for having the sun on the wrong side, and there is no such motive here.

User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1500 times:

Well, thanks for the feedback. They aren't actually backlit, the sun was at my 4 oclock. Pehaps it was how I brightened them? Also, is the compression just from flickr?

[Edited 2012-11-29 16:22:10]


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User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1493 times:

Accept for a lot of compression, which I am still trying to figure out, is this one better?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9063121...8230344647/sizes/l/in/photostream/



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1489 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 1):
They aren't actually backlit,

Yes they are. Look at the tail fin. If the sun were on the same side of the aircraft as you, it would be sunlit. It is not.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 3):
is this one better?

No, also backlit.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1487 times:

Okay, thanks. Now that i think of it, the sun was more head on with the plane. I will be at LAX again in three weeks shooting from the same spot, from around 1230pm to 3pm. Do you think I can get some non-backlit images?


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1486 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 5):
I will be at LAX again in three weeks shooting from the same spot, from around 1230pm to 3pm. Do you think I can get some non-backlit images?

Given I don't know where exactly you where, nor when you took the images above, how could I even speculate?

Use this tool to help plan your spotting a little better:

http://suncalc.net/


User currently offlinechriswade From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1485 times:

Depends where the sun is. You want the sun lighting the side of the plane you are shooting.

User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

Thanks Dana, very handy tool! Your assistance is very helpful. FYI, I am at the In and Out, which I am sure you have heard of, very famous place. Sorry if am I am trying too much too fast, but I'd like your opinion on one more. Thank you!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9063121...8231727914/sizes/l/in/photostream/

[Edited 2012-11-29 19:28:31]
I am aware of the compression, it is from Flickr.


[Edited 2012-11-29 19:29:14]


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 8):
I'd like your opinion on one more.

It has a blue tint, and seems somewhat soft, but it's hard to tell with the compression. Imageshack is also free and won't compress your images as much.

http://imageshack.us/


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Alright thank you sir. I will try imageshack at a later time. I will fix up that DL and get back ovet the weekend.


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User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1441 times:

Dana, could you have a look again, it is the same image, only on imageshack. I just want to make sure flickr isn't messing up the pic before I make the changes you suggested. Thanks so much.
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5264/dsc2578copy.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 11):
Dana, could you have a look again

Very soft, and blue tint.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Okay, thanks, any better?
http://imageshack.us/f/850/dsc2578copy.jpg/
Well I'm at it, how's this SK?
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3441/dsc2804copy.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-30 19:24:36]


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 13):
Okay, thanks, any better?

Looks sharper. Still blue.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 13):
Well I'm at it, how's this SK?

Low contrast, and dark/backlit. Also has blue cast.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Okay, I'll give the DL a go once more and forget the SK since it is backlit.
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5264/dsc2578copy.jpg
Less blue now I hope? I have given it three rounds of - blue at -6, -2, -9.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 15):
Less blue now I hope?

A bit. Quality's still not that great unfortunately.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Well I have the original, so I will start fresh with that tomorrow with all the changes you suggested. That will probably improve quality, as the original is pretty good, although through glass.


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User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

Okay, Dana, here is a complete rework of the original with all changes incorporated, for some reason, it looks to have worse quality and be more compressed on the website, on my screen, it looks fine in my editor.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5264/dsc2578copy.jpg
Is this any good?
Also, how is this nose shot at SEA? It will be resized down to 1100 px high, I just wanted to see how it looks now.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6424/dsc5009copy.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 18):
Is this any good?

A bit better, but still soft and blue.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 18):
Also, how is this nose shot at SEA?

Soft, flat, grainy, and yellow.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

Okay, here are re-edits of both
763: http://imageshack.us/f/12/dsc5009copy.jpg/
319: http://imageshack.us/f/37/dsc2578copy0.jpg/
I know the 319 looks soft around the nose, but it isn't really soft at all in my editor, perhaps that is the upload process at imageshack? Thanks for looking, hopefuly these are better.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 20):
Okay, here are re-edits of both

First is flat, a bit overexposed, and blue; second is soft, flat, and yellow.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 20):
I know the 319 looks soft around the nose, but it isn't really soft at all in my editor, perhaps that is the upload process at imageshack?

No, that will have no effect on sharpness.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Okay, once again.
763: http://imageshack.us/f/338/dsc5009copy.jpg/
319: http://imageshack.us/f/546/dsc2578copy.jpg/
Crossing fingers and toes.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1382 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 22):
Crossing fingers and toes.

Same issues with both. Can't tell you if they are better or worse as you have removed the previous versions.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 23):
Same issues with both.

Hmm.. that surprises me. i made significant adjustments to both, especially the second. I'll table them for now. I'll rework them later. How are these?
http://imageshack.us/f/211/dsc5932copy.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/12/dsc5506b.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/708/dsc5462i.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/594/dsc5243copy.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/41/dsc8681v.jpg/
Think the last one might be a no-go, but I might as well have the pro's look at it. Thanks for all your help. These probably have some issues too.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 24):
How are these?

All are soft. I don't think you're getting my point about backlighting. If you were, you'd realize images like the second and third have no chance. Besides softness, the other three have issues with the white balance (too yellow), and centering (last one).


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

I do understand backlighting, I just wasn't aware there was a rule forbidding backlit images. I guess I'll try again for #1 and #4. So, 1 is soft and yellow? And 4 is soft and yellow also? I am feeling a bit dumb not being able to get a non-crap image.


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 26):
I just wasn't aware there was a rule forbidding backlit images.

It's isn't forbidden, but you need a good reason to make it work. Your images have no reason for being backlit.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 26):
So, 1 is soft and yellow?
Quoting DL747 (Reply 26):
And 4 is soft and yellow also?

Yes.

Check your white balance settings, that is often the cause of images being too yellow (or too blue).


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

So, backlighting obviously has the sky behind the aircraft brighter, but why is that bad if the aircraft is still properly exposed.
By the way, here is the 320 reedited with quite a bit of sharpening.
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/207/dsc5243copy.jpg
Hopefully it's good?
If it is still soft, it has to be something in my resizing process, it looks much more sharp in the original non-resized.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 28):
By the way, here is the 320 reedited with quite a bit of sharpening.

Still a bit soft, flat, and overexposed. Starting to show some noise as well. Aim for something like the left side here:

http://imageshack.us/a/img825/207/dsc5243copy.jpg


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Okay here is the L-39.
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7686/dsc5932copy.jpg
And the 320 fresh image. The nose looked a lot sharper on this one upon further exam, so I went with it instead.
http://imageshack.us/f/547/dsc5239.jpg/
Both look a bit compressed to me, but they are 1 edit originals so I think that's imageshack doing that. Aside from that, how are they? Thanks.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 30):
Okay here is the L-39.

Soft, yellow, and flat.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 30):
And the 320 fresh image.

Also soft, yellow, and flat.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 30):
Both look a bit compressed to me, but they are 1 edit originals so I think that's imageshack doing that.

No, compression is not an issue. Why do you seem to keep thinking it is?


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

Well, they just looked a bit grainy to me. Here are re-edits.
L39: http://imageshack.us/f/23/dsc5932copy.jpg/
320: http://imageshack.us/f/39/dsc5240copy.jpg/
Maybe a bit soft around the titles, I can't tell very well.

[Edited 2012-12-02 12:22:55]


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1329 times:

Sharpness better, but both still flat and yellow.

User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1320 times:

Okay, here they are, fixed.
320: http://imageshack.us/f/689/dsc5240copy.jpg/
L39: http://imageshack.us/f/687/dsc5932copy.jpg/



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 35, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 34):
Okay, here they are, fixed.

Bit better. Are you starting from scratch each time, or just tweaking the same files? If the latter, that would explain why each progressive edit is showing more and more compression.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Funny you ask, with every other one, it has been from scratch, these two are tweaks, though. Are they passable?


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 37, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 36):
Are they passable?

No, contrast & color are still issues.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

Ok, thanks Dana, here are re-edits from the original, with all changes incorporated.
L39: http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3923/dsc5932copy0.jpg
320: http://imageshack.us/f/5/dsc5240copy0.jpg/

And one more.
http://imageshack.us/f/22/dsc5335copy.jpg/



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 39, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 38):
here are re-edits

Still yellow and a bit flat.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 38):
And one more

Also yellow.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

Okay, will fix those up. I fogot to add blue to both the 320's, my bad! I did on the L39, but will add a bit more. Also boosted contrast on the two older ones.
Vigin 320: http://imageshack.us/f/138/dsc5240copy1.jpg/
L39: http://imageshack.us/f/41/dsc5932copy1.jpg/
US 320: http://imageshack.us/f/191/dsc5335copy.jpg/



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 41, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 40):
I fogot to add blue

Why not just adjust the white balance? A lot simpler and you won't have to go through so many iterations to find the right color. If you don't have the raw files, you might not be able to fix the images at all. Adjusting improper white balance settings with jpegs only is quite difficult.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Yes, I could do that, but these are jpegs. I only leraned to shoot RAW a few months ago, after these were taken. Are they acceptable now, or do they still have cast issues?


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 43, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1236 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 42):
Are they acceptable now, or do they still have cast issues?

They still need work.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1224 times:

Sorry, guys I just don't have any eye at all for color cast. Is that the only thing needing work?


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 45, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1218 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 44):
Is that the only thing needing work?

Contrast/lighting is not great either. Probably best to give up on these and concentrate on getting it right next time.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

Well, given the fact it's Seattle, and the weather is probably going to suck until next April, do you think I could drop the Vrigin, as I think it has the worst light, and try to fix the US and the L-39? Or, are the too far off to fix. Most of my pics have coulds and not fantastic light, so I would like to at least try. Thanks.


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 47, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

You've heard my opinion, but they're your images so you can do whatever you wish with them.

User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Well, whatever, then I guess I will dump those and try again from LAX, hopefully with better light. I thought I might try a few ones from different days.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3202/dsc4970copy0.jpg
I don't know if the poor quality of the background is an issue with this one.
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7367/dsc5072copy.jpg
Will be at 1100 pxels high, just wanted to see if it is close before going further. Mainly concerned about quality, noise, and motive.
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5998/dsc5249e.jpg
This last one looks way compressed to me, don't know why. Hopefully these are at least worth editing further?



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 49, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 48):
I don't know if the poor quality of the background is an issue with this one.

The background will not be a factor. The level and softness, almost blurriness of the aircraft will, however.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 48):
Will be at 1100 pxels high, just wanted to see if it is close before going further.

Won't comment unless it's upload size.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 48):
This last one looks way compressed to me

Low in frame and slighly soft/dark/yellow.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Alright, I will re-work the WN at a later time. For now, how are these:
http://imageshack.us/f/841/dsc6308copy.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/145/dsc8682copy.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/145/dsc8690h.jpg/
On the last one, I don't know is the fence is an issue. Thanks for looking, appreciate the help.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 51, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 50):
how are these:

First has very marginal light with the sky almost blown out, and the second is soft/heat hazed (also overexposed, but that's a moot point with the heat haze).

Quoting DL747 (Reply 50):
On the last one, I don't know is the fence is an issue.

Better without, but not an immediate killer. Also slightly bright.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

Okay, do you think the Skymaster is worth fixing, as it isn't yet in the database, that I can find? Here is a re-work of the Netjets, sorry, but I do not have any shots without the fence. Also thought I'd throw in a couple more, along with the re-sized engine shot from above. I think I will cool it a bit after these, and wait for LAX, in which I will have all of the raw files.

http://imageshack.us/f/84/dsc9115copy.jpg/
Not sure if this one has the quality, but I thought it might be worth a try with that background.

http://imageshack.us/f/202/dsc8805copy.jpg/
I think it is a bit flat, and perhaps a bit yellow.

http://imageshack.us/f/834/dsc8689copy.jpg/
Toned the brightness on this one down a bit.

http://imageshack.us/f/23/dsc8683copy.jpg/
Not sure if this has the quality either, but it looked better than the China Southern above.

http://imageshack.us/f/547/dsc5072.jpg/
And, the resized engine. I am concerned about noise, notive, and contrast.

Thanks for looking, I will use this knowledge to hopefully improve at LAX.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 53, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 52):
Not sure if this one has the quality,

Blurry.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 52):
I think it is a bit flat

Yes flat, soft, and noisy.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 52):
Toned the brightness on this one

Still a bit bright/flat/soft.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 52):
Not sure if this has the quality either,

Soft/heat haze problems.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 52):
And, the resized engine

Soft.

In the future, it would be nice if you could provide direct links to the upload-size images rather than making us have to click through the mid-sized to get there:

http://imageshack.us/a/img84/5584/dsc9115copy.jpg


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (2 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Not quite sure how to paste the image in there, so could you please help out? I am a bit concerned about the motive and the general sharpness/quality. Thanks for looking.

http://imageshack.us/a/img402/8997/dsc1853copy.jpg

[Edited 2012-12-12 18:13:56]

[Edited 2012-12-12 18:15:38]


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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 55, posted (2 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1003 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 54):
I am a bit concerned about the motive

What is concerning you about the motive?

Quoting DL747 (Reply 54):
and the general sharpness/quality.

Generally looks ok.


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 55):
What is concerning you about the motive?

I just wasn't sure if the angle had too much belly in it.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 55):

Generally looks ok.

Okay, any other issues with it, or is it good for the queue now? Thank you sir.

Also, a quick re-work of the NetJets.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6558/dsc8689copy0.jpg
Concerned about the sharpness, contrast, fence, and color cast. Thanks again.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 57, posted (2 years 4 days ago) and read 990 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 56):
I just wasn't sure if the angle had too much belly in it.

Not a very attractive angle imho, but nothing technically wrong with it.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 56):
Also, a quick re-work of the NetJets.

A bit soft/overexposed.


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Reply 58, posted (2 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 988 times:

Okay, TN is in the queue. Here is the NetJets once again. Thanks for looking.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1468/dsc8689copy1.jpg



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Reply 59, posted (2 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 962 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 58):
Here is the NetJets once again.

Still a bit bright.


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Reply 60, posted (2 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 949 times:

Okay, here is the re-done Netjets, along with one more.
http://imageshack.us/f/526/dsc8689copy2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/526/dsc8689copy2.jpg/
With this one, I am concerned about the contrast, light, brightness, and sharpness. Thanks for looking. I apologize if these are medium sized links, I cannot post direct images, I am not a paid member. I plan to become one soon, though!



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Reply 61, posted (2 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 942 times:

I cannot edit the last post and realized I accidently posted the smae image.
Here is the correct "along with one more."
http://imageshack.us/f/856/dsc9073copy.jpg/



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Reply 62, posted (2 years 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 931 times:

Thoughts on the above photos? Thanks.


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Reply 63, posted (2 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 918 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 62):
Thoughts on the above photos?

First is better, second is backlit & very noisy.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 60):
I apologize if these are medium sized links, I cannot post direct images, I am not a paid member. I plan to become one soon, though!

??

Not sure what you're talking about, you don't need to pay to post full-sized links.

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/2176/dsc9073copy.jpg


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Reply 64, posted (2 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Alright, do you think the Hainan is worth fixing? It is backlit for a reason, that being to show the rainbow vapor. I can certainly remove some noise, and downsize it, I would like to try, if you think it's worth it. I will put the Netjets in the queue as sonn as I have a space. With regards to the in-thread images, when I copy the photo and try to paste it, there is no paste option when I right click in the reply box. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for all your assistance.


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Reply 65, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 64):
Alright, do you think the Hainan is worth fixing?

Contrast is pretty harsh, vapor or not. Up to you if you want to try.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 64):
With regards to the in-thread images, when I copy the photo and try to paste it, there is no paste option when I right click in the reply box. What am I doing wrong?

No idea. It's pretty simple, just put [ I M G ] image.link [ / I M G ] (without the spaces).


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Reply 66, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 907 times:

Well, I'll give the Hainan a shot. Here is the re-edit at a smaller size. I think it is flat and perhaps a bit bright.
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/7754/dsc9073copy1.jpg

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

[Edited 2012-12-15 23:27:52]


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Reply 67, posted (2 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 897 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 66):
I'll give the Hainan a shot.

Very low contrast and noisy. No chance as it is I'm afraid.


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Reply 68, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 879 times:

Boosted the contrast some, still think noise may be an issue, and I'm not usre how to correct that. The RAW doesn't look as noisy as the jpg copy.
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/5926/dsc9072copy.jpg

Uploaded with ImageShack.us



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Reply 69, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 876 times:

I do not think this image is fixable to a.net standards, sorry.

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Reply 70, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 878 times:

Well, that's alright, thanks for your help. Anyway, if you don't mind, what is wrong with it?


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Reply 71, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 878 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 70):
what is wrong with it?

See:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 63):
backlit & very noisy.
Quoting dlowwa (Reply 67):
Very low contrast and noisy. No chance as it is I'm afraid.


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Reply 72, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 877 times:

Oh, okay, thanks, I just didn't know if there were any additional issues with this edit. I'll try again soon after I head down to LAX.


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Reply 73, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 823 times:

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 57):
nothing technically wrong with it.

Well, apparently there is, as it was rejected for grainy, compression and dark.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0266.0669airtihuitnui343atlax1.jpg

The uploaded photo is exactly the same one as I showed you here. Should I appeal, or should I fix it? Thanks.



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Reply 74, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 822 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 73):
Well, apparently there is,

You asked about the angle, and that was what I was referring to - there was nothing technically wrong with the angle. The quality, well, that's another matter.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 73):
Should I appeal,

Up to you, but I don't see it having much chance.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 73):
should I fix it?

With that light, doubt there is much you can do.


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Reply 75, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 805 times:

Alright, I will forget that one too. I just returned from the trip, and unfortunately had crap for weather. I did reel off quite a few useable shots, though, but my camera's buffer filled right as the LH 748 came in and I missed it. But I digress. Anyway, here is a China 744 for you to check out. I am aware the wings look yellow, but I adjusted the Wb and that made the fuselage look very blue. The yellow is from a lot of trees nearby reflecting onto the aircraft, I think.

Here it is. I am concerned with sharpness, cast, contrast mainly, but would appreciate general feedback. I think it might also be a bit bright. Thanks.

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/1127/dsc0412copycopy.jpg



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 76, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 793 times:

Quoting DL747 (Reply 75):
would appreciate general feedback

Looks a bit blurry, which is common when shooting so close to a fast moving subject (different parts of the aircraft will appear to move at different speeds relative to you). As such, there is not much you can do to fix it. In the future, it would probably be a good idea to put a little more distance between you and the subject so the panning will be more even. This will also give you a more aesthetically pleasing angle (unless you actually prefer toplit belly shots).


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