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| Topic: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Faro Posted 2009-05-13 03:20:14 and read 2305 times. Like with areas with strong tailwinds, do airlines ever route trips over areas of uniform, mildly ascending airmasses, such as benefit sailplane activties? Theoretically, this could reduce fuel burn on overland legs (to the extent that undue turbulence is avoided). | |
| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Oly720man Posted 2009-05-13 03:28:28 and read 2293 times. I'd expect that the scale of such atmospheric effects would be too small to warrant the change in routing to use them. And most planes cruise above the weather. | |
| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: OffshoreAir Posted 2009-05-13 03:35:48 and read 2291 times. When I lay out flight plans for the widebodies we schedule in the office I work in, we use different settings of seasonal winds - i.e. 85%, or 75%, depending on the mission. This is mostly just to get a ballpark figure on fuel burn and operating costs. I assume just like intra-US IFR routing, trans-atlantic and trans-pacific routing has preferred routing and travel lanes for crossing the oceans and polar routes that actually must be filed for on the flight plan. | |
| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Metroliner Posted 2009-05-13 04:25:42 and read 2282 times. Well, thermals are only one of the types of rising air mass that are out there. It might be feasible to cruise in portions of 'mountain wave' in the lee of a large, relatively straight mountain range. Examples could be the Andes and Rockies, though I don't believe this is done in practice. | |
| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Rwessel Posted 2009-05-13 15:40:53 and read 2219 times. Most smaller lift source, like thermals and ridge lift, are too small, or meaningful only too near the ground, to be of much use to an airliner. Mountain waves might be big enough, but are often very, very rough (actually pretty much any of the sources of lift can, and often are, pretty turbulent) - not something you really want to subject passengers to. | |
| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Faro Posted 2009-05-14 08:35:41 and read 2141 times.
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| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Rwessel Posted 2009-05-14 13:27:23 and read 2104 times.
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| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: Borism Posted 2009-05-21 14:24:08 and read 1889 times. But aren't all those mentioned effects large contributing factors in the formation and location of the jet streams, so airlines are using them indirectly anyway? | |
| Topic: RE: Route Planning To Take Advantage Of Thermals? Username: YWG Posted 2009-05-22 00:24:28 and read 1853 times. jet streams are the result of continental air masses. | |
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