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Topic: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: tjwgrr
Posted 2012-11-27 09:51:14 and read 4857 times.

I've often wondered where FedEx feeder crews call 'home.' Here in GRR, FX sends C208's out to TVC, PLN, and CIU. Flights usually depart GRR between 0700 and 0730 local, and arrive back in GRR between 2000 and 2100 local. What does the pilot do during the day at these out stations? Do they make those outstations 'home', or in my example make GRR 'home'? Is GRR merely an overnight crash pad? Unlike mainline FX crews which may only be in hub cities (MEM, IND) a few hours each night, the feeder pilots have significant down time on both ends. I know there are many other examples like this across the FX network..... MKE for example sends C208's to CMX, ESC, IMT, RHI, and SAW.

Just curious.....

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: doug_Or
Posted 2012-11-27 09:57:48 and read 4839 times.

I've seen it work both ways, but in general pilots tend to be based at the "hub" while the airline maintains an apartment (or small house if the pilots are outstation based) with a beater car at the outstation. It will vary as these FedEx feeders are actaully operated by a variety of local partner airlines much in the same way as regional airlines operate in the passengers world.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: HAWK21M
Posted 2012-11-28 02:29:33 and read 4593 times.

Wont FDTL rest be considered in between......

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: flymia
Posted 2012-11-28 06:13:32 and read 4549 times.

I have heard of those pilots finding some part time work at the out station. I makes sense bascially the flying is their commute there. With the money they make flying two flights a day they need the extra money. For the part time job to work the pilot would have to be based on the same flight every day of course which I think is the case. Anyone here of that? Do the pilots get put on one route only? Or does it depend how big the station is.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: pilotpip
Posted 2012-11-28 10:46:18 and read 4469 times.

Mountain Air Cargo and others typically pay their pilots a salary. If they didn't, they would never be able to find pilots. From my experience they are based at whatever outstation they start their route in. They then fly to the hub, sit until morning and fly back out to the outstation. While they are sitting at the hub they are for all practical purposes, on duty. I don't know of any that maintain housing. You're on your own for that.

We handled a lot of cargo including UPS and DHL feeders back when I worked at an FBO and it wasn't uncommon for the smaller feeder companies to have an on-demand charter side of operation as well. It wasn't unusual for feeder pilots to do an on-demand run during the night since they had upwards of 8 hours in between feeder flights.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: doug_Or
Posted 2012-11-28 10:46:41 and read 4469 times.

It depends, but for the most part pilots are assigned a regular route. I believe they are generally salaried, so its not like they're being paid less due to the lack of flight time (they're being paid less because the salary is low).

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: fuelfool
Posted 2012-11-28 15:06:11 and read 4387 times.

There are a number of FX feeder flights that leave IND, and return empty after they make their flights. Not sure if that is done at MEM.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: bjorn14
Posted 2014-09-24 15:48:59 and read 1050 times.

At what size frame do freight feeders start going to 2-pliot crews?

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: TWA772LR
Posted 2014-09-24 16:30:25 and read 1020 times.

Is the OP just talking about the Caravan pilots or all FedEx Feeder crews?

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
At what size frame do freight feeders start going to 2-pliot crews?

Probably the ATR. I think its the next size up on the FedEx fleet. Then I guess the 757 is next?

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2014-09-25 03:40:20 and read 865 times.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
At what size frame do freight feeders start going to 2-pliot crews?

The ATR might be a little too heavy an airframe for single pilot, but I do know that in Alaska, they are flying E-120 cargo conversions as single pilot.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: boeingfixer
Posted 2014-09-25 06:25:37 and read 831 times.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 8):
Then I guess the 757 is next?

The 757 is mainline and not a feeder aircraft. The C208 and ATR's are the only FedEx feeder aircraft in the fleet.

Cheers,

John

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: TWA772LR
Posted 2014-09-25 07:03:23 and read 813 times.

Quoting boeingfixer (Reply 10):
The 757 is mainline and not a feeder aircraft. The C208 and ATR's are the only FedEx feeder aircraft in the fleet.

I know. I was talking about the FedEx fleet as a whole.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: DashTrash
Posted 2014-09-25 07:21:09 and read 806 times.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 9):
The ATR might be a little too heavy an airframe for single pilot, but I do know that in Alaska, they are flying E-120 cargo conversions as single pilot.

To my knowledge the EMB-120 type certificate requires two pilots.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: atct
Posted 2014-09-25 10:15:38 and read 743 times.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 9):
but I do know that in Alaska, they are flying E-120 cargo conversions as single pilot.

As far as I know there are no E-120's flying cargo in Alaska. Everts has 1 (possibly 2 now...if not flying at least on property) and it is two man crewed. TransNorthern flies Metroliners (formerly for FedEx, now UPS) single pilot and some flights with 2.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2014-09-25 10:28:07 and read 738 times.

Quoting DashTrash (Reply 12):

To my knowledge the EMB-120 type certificate requires two pilots.

Yes; however, I believe there's an exemption, but I can't seem to find any information on it. Everts Air Cargo had an incident a few years ago involving an E-120, and I strongly believe it was single pilot. I could be wrong, though (If I could find the detailed incident report, that is.)

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: DiamondFlyer
Posted 2014-09-25 10:38:21 and read 733 times.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14):
Yes; however, I believe there's an exemption, but I can't seem to find any information on it. Everts Air Cargo had an incident a few years ago involving an E-120, and I strongly believe it was single pilot. I could be wrong, though (If I could find the detailed incident report, that is.)

There is not, as I'm quite certain my company would be doing it, as cheap as they are, on our E120's.

-DiamondFlyer

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: A346Dude
Posted 2014-09-25 19:19:14 and read 573 times.

Quoting flymia (Reply 3):
I have heard of those pilots finding some part time work at the out station. I makes sense bascially the flying is their commute there. With the money they make flying two flights a day they need the extra money. For the part time job to work the pilot would have to be based on the same flight every day of course which I think is the case. Anyone here of that? Do the pilots get put on one route only? Or does it depend how big the station is.

That sounds horribly inefficient. Every airline I know of bases crews at the hub, and they fly different routes all the time.

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: DiamondFlyer
Posted 2014-09-25 23:29:27 and read 532 times.

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 16):
That sounds horribly inefficient. Every airline I know of bases crews at the hub, and they fly different routes all the time.

With the small feed package market in the US, this is common and does make sense. A pilot ends up spending more time in the outstation than they do in the "hub" and additionally in many places the aircraft flies to the outstation Saturday morning and doesn't come back until Monday evening. 1 pilot, 1 aircraft, 1 route, you fly the same route every day.

-DiamondFlyer

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: A346Dude
Posted 2014-09-26 05:58:06 and read 483 times.

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 17):
With the small feed package market in the US, this is common and does make sense. A pilot ends up spending more time in the outstation than they do in the "hub" and additionally in many places the aircraft flies to the outstation Saturday morning and doesn't come back until Monday evening. 1 pilot, 1 aircraft, 1 route, you fly the same route every day.

Interesting, thanks for the info. How do they handle sick calls and charters?

Topic: RE: FedEx Feeder Crew Question
Username: DiamondFlyer
Posted 2014-09-26 11:15:07 and read 384 times.

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 18):
Interesting, thanks for the info. How do they handle sick calls and charters?

Generally, a spare pilot/plane in the hub, who sits reserve.

-DiamondFlyer


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