WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9154 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5781 times:
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we (LH) switch them on during the night, when we are on the Ground and climbing. Af about FL100 we switch off landing lights and runway turnoff lights and also the logo light. And during approach we turn on all those lights again passing FL100. The logo light only by night...
Tbanger From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5732 times:
A lot of operators disable them because the lamp is often located on the top or bottom of the hori-stab. That thing usually shakes itself to bits......well not quite, but it often causes lamps to blow frequently. Especially on turboprops.
Mr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5233 times:
Sometimes there are very late arrivals into Toronto Intl Airport (YYZ) that you can't help but notice if you're awake at 2:00 to 3:00 am (and are listening to a scanner ).
When this happens (I guess these flights have delayed departures, etc), I can't help but wonder about noise complaints from people who live beside the airport, and I have even entertained the thought of.............
Do the pilots of these late arrivals ever turn off their logo lights once on final, or even consider doing so, to avoid public noise complaints from being aimed directly at their airline? (I live to far away to see their tails late at night).
I know a flight crew has more important things on their minds than noise complaints during final approach, but I've still wondered about this.
Ramper@IAH From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5020 times:
Some airlines don't even have logo lights installed - like American. The logo lights are entirely optional, I'm not aware of any policies that require them to be illuminated at night. Sometimes pilots turn them off just because they're pissed at their company for some reason or another - like when in stalled contract negotiations. Why give free advertising to the company you're mad at?
Avt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4995 times:
Logo light observations from a bored AME- Dash 8 logolights are mounted on the bottom of the horizontal stab and are quite reliable. I hardly changed any during my time on that type. F28s- we had a fleet of 30 at CRA, and they came from all over the world, with a big spread in age. Some had no logo lights. Some had them, hardwired to be on whenever power was on the aircraft. Some had a switch in the cockpit, and some had a switch at the forward F/A position! So there is no set policy or rule. more of whatever the operator wants.
Dc10hound From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 463 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4781 times:
And sometimes operation is completely automatic, (if they are selected on):
When I'm at my house near BWI, and the Aer Lingus A330 departs from runway 28, while making the turn to a heading of 150, and climbing through an altitude of maybe 3000 feet, the logo light turns off. I swear, I could watch that plane for a week, and at the same spot in the sky, the light will turn off. Does anyone know if they can be set to turn off at a certain altitude?
Actually, this operation is not directly related to a certain altitude. On the A300-605R, the logo lights automatically turn off when the aircraft is in the air mode and the slats are retracted (before the AAL logo lights were deactivated). I imagine that slat retraction occurs at roughly the same point during departure. The lights will come on again during approach when the slats are extended.
Exterior compartment lights (wheel wells, APU compartment) operate the same way if they are left on by MX.
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3516 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4741 times:
Some airlines don't even have logo lights installed - like American.
Actually some of our airplanes have logo lights (all 737s for example) and some do not (most MD80s for example). In either case, if installed the systems have been deactivated (once again) to save maintenance costs (third time in my AA career this has happened).
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Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4566 times:
Logo lights are not mandatory. As mentioned above I think many airlines didn't have the logo lights installed or they won't replace it when the bulbs blow. Generally I see this trend on American carriers but european and especially asian carriers and Qantas usually are quite proud of their tails!
Ba299 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4475 times:
Here at BA the logo lights are switched on during all the ground time during dark hours as we are proud of our tails. In such airport for security reasons they must be turned off. Looking at the MEL the logo light are a category D so the maintenance interval are 120 days.
10MID From Singapore, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4357 times:
At my company, we choose not to use logo lights at night as a sign of solidarity, since we are in contract negotiations. Sometimes we'll see one taxiing around with the lights on and will gently remind him on the radio. The other night at IAD, 2 us were in the run-up block waiting for release and the other had their logo lights on. A third company plane taxiied by and started flashing their logo lights on as a signal to the other.