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Alaska Airlines Flight Ops In Southeast Alaska  
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 31
Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

Got kind a complicated question directed primarily towards Alaska Airlines personnel (pilots, dispatchers, etc), or anybody else who may know.

In flying my Flight Sim 2002 (currently the 737 I'm flying is at Wrangell, AK), and in trying to set up flights further north (next destination is Petersburg), I'm finding that setting up IFR routing is fairly complicated in that flying between these two airports that appear to be only 28 miles apart is requiring flying routes that are two to three times as long. I've got a copy of the NOAA approach plates, etc for Alaska, and in reading the departure profile for Wrangell, and the LDA approach to Petersburg, it seems like I'm flying over half of southeastern Alaska.

Is this pretty normal for flight ops in this part of the state (also Sitka, Juneau, etc)? Is a VFR routing flown much?

Does Alaska fly the GPS approaches more often than the LDA's?

Thanks for any and all thoughts.

Tom at MSY

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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

While waiting for an Alaska pilot to pop up here, I'll offer this. To the best of my knowledge AS crews shoot only ILS and coded RNAV approaches now. It might account for a longer route because it is between waypoints rather than on a VOR-based airway, but it would also be more precisely located, allowing for lower minima.

I've had some exposure to this but it has been a while.

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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 29181 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3761 times:



Are 2 typical B737-400 rts from from WRG to PSG.
Alaska has some custom RNAV procedures that will not show up in the NOAA plates.

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3732 times:


Part 121 Domestic/Flag flights file IFR, irrespective of weather... .

User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2030 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3744 times:

I've promised myself, before this life is done, that I'll catch an Alaska flight up to Barrow in the dead of winter, just to see what it's like up there.


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