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Emergency Ditching Procedures Question  
User currently offlineB741 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 716 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3418 times:

I noticed that Airbus talks about sea swells and how to judge the sea when ditching in their A310 manual. But Air Canada does not mention this in their emergency manuals for the A319,320 and 321. Why the difference in this very important emergency procedure?


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User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 830 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3406 times:

Do they fly long routes over water?


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3399 times:
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Perhaps they figure it would be insulting to Canadian pilots to suggest they lack floatplane/water-judgement skills...

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User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Most Canadian pilots have come up through the flying instructor route, I think. So it wouldn't be presumptuous to think that they don't have float experience.

AC 320's fly to the Caribbean, so there are overwater routes. There are only a few aircraft so equipped, though - 213 to 217, 257 to 261, and 465 to 467 - I might be a number or two off there. Perhaps you saw the manual for one of the non-overwater flying aircraft.

Seems like something you'd want to have in there, though.



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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4913 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

I am not sure what manual you are looking at, but Ditching procedures are in my Air Canada A319/320/321 manuals. (Which are current, by the way!)

The procedures, nose attitudes, notes etc, are in the QRH ... expanded in Vol1 ... then explained in detail, including sea assessment in the Flight Crew Training Manual for the A319/320/321.



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User currently offlineB741 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

I was looking in Emergency Procedures Section 1.13 which does not mention the sea. This is manual 1 so I will check the other 4 manuals to see if this is mentioned.


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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4913 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3232 times:

Do you have access to the Flight Crew Training Manual? This is a very large (400+ pages) publication that gives a "how to" to just about everything involved with the A319/320/321. It is published "in house" by Air Canada's training department, and has a very comprehensive explanation with regard to ditching.


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User currently offlineB741 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

I have access to the five A319/320/321 manuals but I do not think they include the Flight Crew Training Manual. I will double check on that.


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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4913 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Also ... just checking, the sea assessment part of ditching is also in the Flight Ops Manual, as it is not aircraft type specific.


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