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Flickering Reading Lights On New A320's  
User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3940 times:

All of our new A320/319 have this nagging fault: in the middle of the flight all pax/crew reading lights flicker once. This is accompanied by a sound resembling the recycling of an old fashioned metal switch. This does not happen once during the flight but every 20 minutes or so. The fault never used to happen on our older A320's. Our engineers have not yet figured out what is triggering this fault yet and as such cannot rectify it. Any ideas?

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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

Be happy it is more French than British.

Lucas Electrics!!!!

The Lucas lightswitches have three positions: OFF, DIM and FLICKER



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3754 times:

Are you saying the Above is a normal feature.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

I experienced a similar problem recently on a Frontier A319.

The accompanying sound was a little more horrifying than a big switch.

N


User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

I've flown on Air Canada's new series A320's a few times and haven't seen anything like that. Something specific to your airline, perhaps?


The primary function of the design engineer is to make things difficult for the manufacturer and impossible for the AME.
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3522 times:
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Air NZs new A320s don't have the problems

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3510 times:

Could it be a malfunctioning relay.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Have witnessed it on a one-week old Jetstar 320.

User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Not to fan the A vs. B flames here but cabin writeups were an everyday occurrence on the 320 series. On the 330 four or five cabin writeups per flight were more typical. I've seen as many as 27 different faults in the cabin on one flight.

Apparently the fix was always easy. The plane made the next flight.



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User currently offlineFinnWings From Finland, joined Oct 2003, 640 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

Not to fan the A vs. B flames here but cabin writeups were an everyday occurrence on the 320 series. On the 330 four or five cabin writeups per flight were more typical. I've seen as many as 27 different faults in the cabin on one flight.

Try to post that in the civil aviation forum and the hell would break out there between A and B fans.  Laugh out loud

I have flown plenty of flights on A319/A320/A321s and never witnessed flickering reading lights. Perhaps I just haven't noticed it... but sounds weird indeed.

Best Regards,
FinnWings


User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

It is indeed strange that nobody seems to know what triggers this fault - even the engineers on this forum. On my flight today I noticed that after the flicker, the pax reading lights go off, while those at the cabin crew stations just flicker off and on again. Not sure if the "switching" sound is heard from anywhere else. I have always only been at the forward station every time this happened.

But, yes, I agree with SlamClick above when he says he has noticed many snags on one flight. I too have noticed that. The faults range from broken door hinges (in the galleys) to faulty reclining mechanism of the pax seats.


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3072 times:
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Did Airbus go to the compact fluorescent-type lights in the 319/320/321 after they introduced the 318? I've been on a few F9 318s with the CF reading lights, and I hate them... my biggest (most frequent and favorite) gripe about that plane. Fade on, fade off, cold, dark light... and the passengers don't understand that they're supposed to fade, so they slam down on those switches trying to get the damned things to come on or off.

Are these faults limited to aircraft with these types of lights? Just wondering.


User currently offlineKateAA From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 89 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

I work daily on Boeing 777 (sometimes Boeing 767) and I think you guys need to go into the galleys more often!

We have lights that flicker and even just stop working for a period of time, then come on again. Normally once in flight its better, but I would think its safe to say that Airbus are not the only aircraft effected.

Kate


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

Is it a Voltage Fluctuation triggering this Flicker.Is there a Stablizer in the Circuit.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

Did Airbus go to the compact fluorescent-type lights in the 319/320/321 after they introduced the 318?

No, we don't have those lights. We have the older more conservative type. I've seen the fading type on the mockups in the factory and I thought they are cool.


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2970 times:
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The CF types might look cool but when that's all the light you have on a night flight and you're trying to read, it's such a dim, cool light, it's hard to be worth much...

and it was funny to see pax absolutely impatient with the fading concept. perhaps cool for cool's sake here wasn't a good idea?


User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 259 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days ago) and read 2952 times:
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Can't believe we have to go through a forum to have some info on this event...

LMML 14/32, can you provide me with some more details on this? (Exact description, flight phase, etc...)

Because the engineers in Malta have stopped for a long time going back to Airbus customer support (at least my group: CIDS), don't hesitate in sending me a mail or message, because I really would like to help.



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User currently offlineDuncan From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Try the IDG harness, ref FAA AD2004-15-14....

User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

Hi Knoxibus. Thanks for the offer. Where can I contact you? Your contact details are witheld on your profile.

User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 259 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2785 times:
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Oupppps sorry, that should be working now.


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User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 259 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2774 times:
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LMML 14/32

I have been to the electrical generation people and we will contact the Airbus rep for some more info.

Ciao



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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

Knoxibus, thanks again. Check your e-mail.

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