The Above Image shows the Commander cleaning the windshield normally done by Mx.Is this common.Although it speaks highly of his professionalism.
regds
MEL
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7187 times:
I don't see why he/she wouldn't. I mean if it's his plane and the window is dirty, wouldn't it behoove him/her to clean it for better visibility?
I guess if it depends on the pilot. If he/she is a "go getter", and it needs to be done, it will be done.
If the pilot in question is one of those old-school, walking on water, "it's not my job" types, then you might see a bit of a delay while a ramp, or GA, or whoever fetches a bottle of Windex and a rag.
Air2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7123 times:
I've had pilots just ask me for the stuff to clean the windsheild and I've had others demand that I remove a small spot because it obscures his sight line. It just depends on the pilot.
S12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7102 times:
Most rampers clean the windsheilds if the pilots ask them to. Most of the time if the pilot is on a quick turn, they are bussy getting the next flight ready to go. Other times the pilots will actually jump outside with the rampers and help do it themselves. Like Air2gxs said, it really depends on the pilot.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13332 posts, RR: 64 Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7011 times:
I´ve seen pilots cleaning their own windshields and I ´ve seen pilots rather have a delay (which would be blamed on MX), calling a mechanic to come over from the other side of the airport to remove one dead fly.
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6869 times:
I see pilots doing it all the time...slide that window back, grab a few towels from the lav/galley (hell, even saw some beverage napkins being used one time). Any pilot who causes an Mx delay for something as minor as a few flies is just flat out lazy, and that speaks negatively about his professionalism.
Boeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 57 Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6770 times:
I would think if its dirty, clean it! I'm sure most pilots do not have time to clean there cabin windows themselves and have maintaince do it for them.
Ual777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6745 times:
NO PILOTS DON'T CLEAN THEIR OWN WINDSHIELD.
I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, or South American thing, but in our country they don't.
Wbmech From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6704 times:
A majority of pilots will call mx to clean their windshields, while a small minority will do it themselves. Most do have the sense though to call early enough to prevent delays. The best is when they call for a window wash and you ask them to move so that you can lean out the windows and they don't want to get out of their seat.
Lincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6572 times:
A majority of pilots will call mx to clean their windshields, while a small minority will do it themselves. Most do have the sense though to call early enough to prevent delays. The best is when they call for a window wash and you ask them to move so that you can lean out the windows and they don't want to get out of their seat.
I think this answers my question, but just to be sure...When MX is called to do a window washing they do it from inside the aircraft and leaning out a flight deck window as the pilots are pictured doing above?
If that's the case -- and it makes sense since I've never seen a ramper drive by in a bucket truck with a squeege -- than why bother MX with it? You aren't going to be able to stay in your seat and work anyways...
[Or maybe that's just me and my get-done-now-without-wasting-time-or-bothering-anyone-else attitude. I have been labeled a workaholic at 20 years old.]
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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6560 times:
When MX is called to do a window washing they do it from inside the aircraft and leaning out a flight deck window as the pilots are pictured doing above?
Not necessary.Under normal times a Trestle is used from the outside,its only under urgent situations & the Trestle not available,that the Sliding window is used for cleaning the Windshield from Outside.
Out here Ensuring Windshield is clean is a part of the Mx Preflight checklist.
Till date I've never seen a pilot clean his own window.Atleast not the Outside part.
regds
MEL
Wnsocal From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6534 times:
WN pilots clean windshields,cabins,help with w/c on and off the plane and also help the rampers load luggage from time2time! we have the best pilots at WN ...wnsocal
N867bx From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6517 times:
Doesn't the fueler do this right before he pops the hood to check the oil? I think that's the way its done at Trans American. Surely Captain Oveur or First Officer Murdock don't do windows.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3492 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6496 times:
I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, or South American thing, but in our country they don't.
Maybe pilots at UA don't clean their own windows, but pilots at HA and AQ clean their own windows all the time. I've never seen HA or AQ maintenance clean the windows when the aircraft is on the line.
Barney Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 748 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6439 times:
"I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, or South American thing, but in our country they don't."
I'll echo the previous comments by saying, yes, as a matter of fact, I do clean my own windshield thank you. In 13 years of flying for WN, I've probably seen MX take care of it a half of dozen times or so. This was usually done as a friendly "hey, I'm not busy right now, let me get your windows for you" kind of gesture. Of course, if asked, our MX have always been willing to get it for us. Those guys are the best.
Air2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6253 times:
Unless its cleaning the windows on a jumbo, we always use the sliding window to clean the windows. Getting a lift device out, getting the proper fall protection on and traversing the distance in what has to be the slowest class of vehicles every created is a pain. Open the sliding window, lean out, spray and wipe. Easy.
On the jumbo, we try to use the windshield washer system, but some of those bugs are just baked on.
LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5652 times:
UAL777Contrail:
Funny you should say that. On vacation to Oahu I saw a AA DC-10 captain lean out his sideview and clean his windshield. Guess UAL pilots NEVER clean their own windshields.
Cactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2379 posts, RR: 34 Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5456 times:
So, how often do they need cleaned on average would you say?
It seems like I'm cleaning my windshield in my car every couple of days lately...
Allstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5180 times:
Yeah, not sure what UA777Contrail is trying to convey(like pilots in the US shouldn't have to do that). In ORD, even though it's just measly ol' UX, I saw some ACA CA's come into Ops asking for some cleaner for a bugwash, just to help out, and at Air Whiskey, the pilots would open the window on the 146's(often just to be handed the release) occasionally to wipe down the glass.
-R
25 Cancidas: i've yet to see a pilot clean thier own windscreen in this country, at least in commercial aviation. commercial pilots have the support of a catering/
26 Av8: I think a lot of corporate places have policies against having FBO line workers wash their windshields. If Im not mistaken, a window in a jet aircraft
27 FlyMeToTheMoon: I was under the impression that when they stop at traffic lights (or hold on a taxiway) little people pop up from the ground with a bucket and a squee
28 Northwestair: I think it depends on which Station your at. Sometimes it might be a Union Issue were if it's the MX employee that is suppose to clean the windows the
29 SlamClick: Throughout my career it's been my observation that pilots would do whatever was needed to make the operation work. I've cleaned any number of windshie
30 2H4: NO PILOTS DON'T CLEAN THEIR OWN WINDSHIELD. I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, o
31 VC-10: I ´ve seen pilots rather have a delay (which would be blamed on MX), calling a mechanic to come over from the other side of the airport to remove one
32 Flyer737sw: If the windscreen is dirty why not...I have seen pilots take water from the galley and use napkins to wipe the windscreen...Not a uncommon thing... Ke
33 A/c train: We mix up our own '' bug off '' as we call it, 25% Iso propyl alcohol, 75% water, grab a rag from the van and away you go! Its on the daily inspectio
34 Bsergonomics: It reminds me of that list of defect reports that I got on email about 10 years ago: Pilot report: Dead bugs on windshield. Mech response: Live bugs o
35 SlamClick: Oh, one last answer to the thread question; yes. We often will try to fly through an isolated rain shower because that does a rather good job of washi
36 QantasPilot: I clean my windshield, it's no biggie and to Bsergonomics, Here's that list you wanted: P stands for the problem the pilots entered in the log, and S
37 GKirk: P: Mouse in cockpit. S: Cat installed. ROFLMAO
39 SlamClick: On one mission in Vietnam I was scheduled to fly with the unit maintenance officer. When we got out to the airfield and saw which plane we were assign
40 MD11Engineer: I once had a write up "Big bug in F/O´s map light lens". I was tempted to write "Installed Spider, now ok", but in the end opened the light and remov
41 HAWK21M: Its Tempting to write those Rectifications But I guess officially can't ink that. regds MEL
42 HAWK21M: I've heard that on the Earlier Windshields that used the Rain Repellant system.The repellant could be removed with Coke. Has anyone experienced that.
43 IFixPlanes: Yes, you are right. But diet coke does not work. Ingo
44 HAWK21M: Whats the missing Ingredient. regds MEL
46 Troubleshooter: On CRJs the crew always calls out maintenance for window cleaning. There is no side window to open. And the side window opening on ERJs is to small fo
47 Amtrosie: LOL, Good one Starlionblue but there aren't enough calories to do #@$#@...
48 HAWK21M: That means something which makes normal coke more tastier over Diet coke has the chemicals to wipe out stained repellant on Windshields. Think about
50 Aogdesk: I had a captain who grounded a 757 because the wiper wouldn't park correctly. It operated fine, but when selected to off, it cycled 4 or 5 times befo
51 HAWK21M: Very similiar out here,except its rain instead of snow Although mostly We use a trestle & get it cleaned from the outside. regds MEL
52 AvionicMech: One of the guys here at BY found an even worse captain than that. We had an instrument that needed changing on one of our aircraft, I think it was th
53 Aogdesk: That takes balls on both ends..... Precious material though. Fortunately its a only a small group of pilots that think they're closer to God because
54 CosmicCruiser: Why all this flap about who cleans their own windshields and who doesn't? I doubt that any airline teaches that the crew is responsible for his/her ow
55 Bri2k1: Sucks for you. I see it all the time. And I'm an American.
56 UAcsOKC: Funny, I've seen them clean windows quite a bit lately. Maybe it's because Delta cleans our planes here and they are the ones who are supposed to do
57 TedTAce: I wonder if there is a problem with using Rain-X?
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