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Do Airline Pilots Clean Their Windshield  
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8544 times:


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The Above Image shows the Commander cleaning the windshield normally done by Mx.Is this common.Although it speaks highly of his professionalism.
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MEL


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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8507 times:

I don't see why he/she wouldn't. I mean if it's his plane and the window is dirty, wouldn't it behoove him/her to clean it for better visibility?

I guess if it depends on the pilot. If he/she is a "go getter", and it needs to be done, it will be done.

If the pilot in question is one of those old-school, walking on water, "it's not my job" types, then you might see a bit of a delay while a ramp, or GA, or whoever fetches a bottle of Windex and a rag.


User currently offlineAir2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8443 times:

I've had pilots just ask me for the stuff to clean the windsheild and I've had others demand that I remove a small spot because it obscures his sight line. It just depends on the pilot.

User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8422 times:

Most rampers clean the windsheilds if the pilots ask them to. Most of the time if the pilot is on a quick turn, they are bussy getting the next flight ready to go. Other times the pilots will actually jump outside with the rampers and help do it themselves. Like Air2gxs said, it really depends on the pilot.

User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8367 times:

I pop the cockpit escape hatch and pour a bottle of water over the windows with the wipers on. Works great! Big grin

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 63
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8332 times:

I´ve seen pilots cleaning their own windshields and I ´ve seen pilots rather have a delay (which would be blamed on MX), calling a mechanic to come over from the other side of the airport to remove one dead fly.

Jan


User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8262 times:

I have done it personally as a pilot of the Boeing 757/767 here at AV.

AV757


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8189 times:

I see pilots doing it all the time...slide that window back, grab a few towels from the lav/galley (hell, even saw some beverage napkins being used one time). Any pilot who causes an Mx delay for something as minor as a few flies is just flat out lazy, and that speaks negatively about his professionalism.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6196 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8127 times:

Alaska pilots have maintance clean it if they are at a line maintance station. If they are not at on, they do it themselves.

ASSFO



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User currently offlineBoeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8090 times:

I would think if its dirty, clean it! I'm sure most pilots do not have time to clean there cabin windows themselves and have maintaince do it for them.


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User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8065 times:

NO PILOTS DON'T CLEAN THEIR OWN WINDSHIELD.

I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, or South American thing, but in our country they don't.


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineWbmech From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8024 times:

A majority of pilots will call mx to clean their windshields, while a small minority will do it themselves. Most do have the sense though to call early enough to prevent delays. The best is when they call for a window wash and you ask them to move so that you can lean out the windows and they don't want to get out of their seat.

User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7892 times:

A majority of pilots will call mx to clean their windshields, while a small minority will do it themselves. Most do have the sense though to call early enough to prevent delays. The best is when they call for a window wash and you ask them to move so that you can lean out the windows and they don't want to get out of their seat.

I think this answers my question, but just to be sure...When MX is called to do a window washing they do it from inside the aircraft and leaning out a flight deck window as the pilots are pictured doing above?

If that's the case -- and it makes sense since I've never seen a ramper drive by in a bucket truck with a squeege  Smile -- than why bother MX with it? You aren't going to be able to stay in your seat and work anyways...

[Or maybe that's just me and my get-done-now-without-wasting-time-or-bothering-anyone-else attitude. I have been labeled a workaholic at 20 years old.]

Lincoln



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7881 times:

When MX is called to do a window washing they do it from inside the aircraft and leaning out a flight deck window as the pilots are pictured doing above?

Not necessary.Under normal times a Trestle is used from the outside,its only under urgent situations & the Trestle not available,that the Sliding window is used for cleaning the Windshield from Outside.

Out here Ensuring Windshield is clean is a part of the Mx Preflight checklist.
Till date I've never seen a pilot clean his own window.Atleast not the Outside part.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineWnsocal From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7854 times:

WN pilots clean windshields,cabins,help with w/c on and off the plane and also help the rampers load luggage from time2time! we have the best pilots at WN Smile ...wnsocal


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User currently offlineN867bx From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7837 times:

Doesn't the fueler do this right before he pops the hood to check the oil? I think that's the way its done at Trans American. Surely Captain Oveur or First Officer Murdock don't do windows.

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3671 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7816 times:
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I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, or South American thing, but in our country they don't.

Maybe pilots at UA don't clean their own windows, but pilots at HA and AQ clean their own windows all the time. I've never seen HA or AQ maintenance clean the windows when the aircraft is on the line.


User currently offlineBarney Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 998 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

"I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, or South American thing, but in our country they don't."

I'll echo the previous comments by saying, yes, as a matter of fact, I do clean my own windshield thank you. In 13 years of flying for WN, I've probably seen MX take care of it a half of dozen times or so. This was usually done as a friendly "hey, I'm not busy right now, let me get your windows for you" kind of gesture. Of course, if asked, our MX have always been willing to get it for us. Those guys are the best.

By the way Wnsocal, thx  Big grin



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User currently offlineAir2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7573 times:

Unless its cleaning the windows on a jumbo, we always use the sliding window to clean the windows. Getting a lift device out, getting the proper fall protection on and traversing the distance in what has to be the slowest class of vehicles every created is a pain. Open the sliding window, lean out, spray and wipe. Easy.

On the jumbo, we try to use the windshield washer system, but some of those bugs are just baked on.


User currently offlinePaddy78 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7519 times:

Never once had a pilot at TW ask me to clean his windshield for him; they just asked me for the bottle.

Never once had a pilot at AA ask me to clean his windshield for him; they just ordered me to do it.

No hard feelings native AAers out there; just a fact guys. Think it has to do with the culture you work in.



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User currently offlineFdxgirl From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 75 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7110 times:

wont the water or whatever they use freeze up on the windshield?

User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7012 times:

Yep...I've had to clean the Saab windows a couple of times.....mainly in the summer when the bugs are terrible.

Chris


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6972 times:

UAL777Contrail:

Funny you should say that. On vacation to Oahu I saw a AA DC-10 captain lean out his sideview and clean his windshield. Guess UAL pilots NEVER clean their own windshields.


User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2450 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

So, how often do they need cleaned on average would you say?

It seems like I'm cleaning my windshield in my car every couple of days lately...



You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6501 times:

Yeah, not sure what UA777Contrail is trying to convey(like pilots in the US shouldn't have to do that). In ORD, even though it's just measly ol' UX, I saw some ACA CA's come into Ops asking for some cleaner for a bugwash, just to help out, and at Air Whiskey, the pilots would open the window on the 146's(often just to be handed the release) occasionally to wipe down the glass.

-R


25 Cancidas : i've yet to see a pilot clean thier own windscreen in this country, at least in commercial aviation. commercial pilots have the support of a catering/
26 Av8 : I think a lot of corporate places have policies against having FBO line workers wash their windshields. If Im not mistaken, a window in a jet aircraft
27 FlyMeToTheMoon : I was under the impression that when they stop at traffic lights (or hold on a taxiway) little people pop up from the ground with a bucket and a squee
28 Northwestair : I think it depends on which Station your at. Sometimes it might be a Union Issue were if it's the MX employee that is suppose to clean the windows the
29 SlamClick : Throughout my career it's been my observation that pilots would do whatever was needed to make the operation work. I've cleaned any number of windshie
30 2H4 : NO PILOTS DON'T CLEAN THEIR OWN WINDSHIELD. I have NEVER in 10 years seen a pilot volunteer to clean his own windshield. It may be a European thing, o
31 VC-10 : I ´ve seen pilots rather have a delay (which would be blamed on MX), calling a mechanic to come over from the other side of the airport to remove one
32 Flyer737sw : If the windscreen is dirty why not...I have seen pilots take water from the galley and use napkins to wipe the windscreen...Not a uncommon thing... Ke
33 A/c train : We mix up our own '' bug off '' as we call it, 25% Iso propyl alcohol, 75% water, grab a rag from the van and away you go! Its on the daily inspectio
34 Bsergonomics : It reminds me of that list of defect reports that I got on email about 10 years ago: Pilot report: Dead bugs on windshield. Mech response: Live bugs o
35 SlamClick : Oh, one last answer to the thread question; yes. We often will try to fly through an isolated rain shower because that does a rather good job of washi
36 Post contains images QantasPilot : I clean my windshield, it's no biggie and to Bsergonomics, Here's that list you wanted: P stands for the problem the pilots entered in the log, and S
37 Post contains images GKirk : P: Mouse in cockpit. S: Cat installed. ROFLMAO
38 HAWK21M : Nice Snags + Rectification. regds MEL
39 SlamClick : On one mission in Vietnam I was scheduled to fly with the unit maintenance officer. When we got out to the airfield and saw which plane we were assign
40 MD11Engineer : I once had a write up "Big bug in F/O´s map light lens". I was tempted to write "Installed Spider, now ok", but in the end opened the light and remov
41 Post contains images HAWK21M : Its Tempting to write those Rectifications But I guess officially can't ink that. regds MEL
42 HAWK21M : I've heard that on the Earlier Windshields that used the Rain Repellant system.The repellant could be removed with Coke. Has anyone experienced that.
43 IFixPlanes : Yes, you are right. But diet coke does not work. Ingo
44 HAWK21M : Whats the missing Ingredient. regds MEL
45 Starlionblue : Taste...
46 Troubleshooter : On CRJs the crew always calls out maintenance for window cleaning. There is no side window to open. And the side window opening on ERJs is to small fo
47 Amtrosie : LOL, Good one Starlionblue but there aren't enough calories to do #@$#@...
48 Post contains images HAWK21M : That means something which makes normal coke more tastier over Diet coke has the chemicals to wipe out stained repellant on Windshields. Think about
49 Post contains images Curlyheadboy : Ouch! That must have hurt!
50 Aogdesk : I had a captain who grounded a 757 because the wiper wouldn't park correctly. It operated fine, but when selected to off, it cycled 4 or 5 times befo
51 Post contains images HAWK21M : Very similiar out here,except its rain instead of snow Although mostly We use a trestle & get it cleaned from the outside. regds MEL
52 Post contains images AvionicMech : One of the guys here at BY found an even worse captain than that. We had an instrument that needed changing on one of our aircraft, I think it was th
53 Aogdesk : That takes balls on both ends..... Precious material though. Fortunately its a only a small group of pilots that think they're closer to God because
54 CosmicCruiser : Why all this flap about who cleans their own windshields and who doesn't? I doubt that any airline teaches that the crew is responsible for his/her ow
55 Bri2k1 : Sucks for you. I see it all the time. And I'm an American.
56 UAcsOKC : Funny, I've seen them clean windows quite a bit lately. Maybe it's because Delta cleans our planes here and they are the ones who are supposed to do
57 TedTAce : I wonder if there is a problem with using Rain-X?
58 HAWK21M : Soap water,the Best. regds MEL
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