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Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window  
User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5747 times:


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What's the use of that black area infront of the cockpit window?


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5729 times:

Protects against sun glare. Nowadays there's a special type of paint that takes care of this problem so the black isn't really needed anymore.


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User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5722 times:

i'm pretty sure it's to stop the glare or reflecting light into the pilots eyes, Air India have them on the 747's also. perhaps someone else can confirm?


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5718 times:

I assume it is the same idea as the athletes wearing the black paint under their eyes?

Harry



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5708 times:

Bingo.



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User currently offlineAAFLT192 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5655 times:

The old Air Canada (late '70's to mid '80's+) 747's had a huge painted black spot under the cockpit window, for that reason.

User currently offlineSkywatch From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 923 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5630 times:

If you want a scientific explanation, great! LLike said before, new paint solves this problem. You will notice this kind of paint on classics such as the 707,DC-8
,and 727's, along with a lot of others. This black paint absorbs all the colors of the visible spectrum, therefore majorly decreasing the glare upon the pilot's eyes. (already said above, but in fewer words! Smile)



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User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

If new paint solved this problem, then why does AirTran's new scheme have a prominent black area in front of the cockpit? While I'm in agreeance with the what it is for, I'm wondering what AirTran's decision was to keep it - too cheap to spend on the anti-glare paint or maybe they just like it.  Smile

-Rich


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5463 times:

Some of the Cessnas I've flown had it, did a really good job keeping the sun's reflection off the cowling. I've been thinking of painting one on my Ford Mustang!  idea 


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User currently offlineVictorTango From India, joined Jan 2005, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Air-India 747-200s/-300s as well as the A310s have the anti-glare.


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It was later discontinued on the 744s.


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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5374 times:



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
I assume it is the same idea as the athletes wearing the black paint under their eyes?

I don't believe the plane does it in order to look ferocious and intimidate her competition  Wink

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5377 times:



Quoting INTENSS (Reply 7):
If new paint solved this problem, then why does AirTran's new scheme have a prominent black area in front of the cockpit?

Nostalgia. It's unique.



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User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5221 times:
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I read an article in a commercial aviation magazine (I think it was "Airways" but am not sure which magazine) that the black paint under the cockpit windows was unnecessary. WN has it there because of tradition.

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User currently offlineMakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5132 times:



Quoting AAFLT192 (Reply 5):
The old Air Canada (late '70's to mid '80's+) 747's had a huge painted black spot under the cockpit window, for that reason.

That's the one which jumped to mind as the quintessential example


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5056 times:



Quoting Airsicknessbag (Reply 10):
I don't believe the plane does it in order to look ferocious and intimidate her competition

You never know...  Wink


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Harry



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User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1599 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

The ultimate anti-glare:


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Reminds me of the old people driving their Mercurys with the huge wrap-around sunglasses.  eyepopping 

[Edited 2005-03-10 21:48:46]

User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

Ugly !!! Isn't it ???


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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

looks like the space shuttle Wink


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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

The anti-glare panel has been fairly common on military aircraft since:

World War II

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Korea

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Vietnam

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I think it helps make this is one of the best looking GII paint schemes out there.

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 1):
Nowadays there's a special type of paint that takes care of this problem so the black isn't really needed anymore.

How does a coloured or Non dark colour help reduce reflection of sunlight.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineTroubleshooter From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 423 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

Hi Hawk,

this is achieved by a special surface finish. You can see the diffrence on the pictures below:

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You can see the different paint in front of the cockpit windows.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

The Difference is noticable in the Pics.Thanks.
But What makes the paint less reflective especially paints of Different colours without it being visabally different.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4313 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
I assume it is the same idea as the athletes wearing the black paint under their eyes?

Quite true, not sure how effective it is though.



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