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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5380 times:

Which would be more comfortable Night or Day Shifts.This is put to both Pilots & Mx.
Have you felt excess Nights causing any harm.
regds
MEL


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User currently offlineAmtrosie From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5138 times:

Hawk,
That is a loaded question. Each individual is different, and as such reacts accordingly. I have worked with people who had a terrible time with nights. Family, body, wife, other commitments all played a role. On the other hand, I know some guys that could NOT deal with mornings and having to be "on" immediately. They needed time to wake up and get their motor running. My personal experience was that I found it more difficult to adjust to a true day shift then I ever did to the midnights. Of course I worked nights for almost 15 years. If you look at the different studies out there (I don't know any off hand), but Human Factors related, they all point to less effective work being performed in the 01:00 to 05:00 time frame.


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5127 times:

Easy question to answer. Day shift is easier on the body. People are not nocturnal creatures. When you work nights it throws off your sleep patterns. I should know, I have been working nights for a number of years now. When I've worked days in the past I notice I'm more alert and don't wear our as quickly. Also my wife says I'm not a cranky when I work day shift

User currently offlineCheekie747girl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5127 times:

In my experience, I have found doing a succession of shorter 'early' shifts, for example 6x 0500-1300, much harder going and fatigue-inducing than a straight set of 4x12 hour night shifts. However as has been said, it is very much down to the individual and their personal circumstances.

User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Favorite shift, for my mind/body would be afternoons/swing etc. Approx 1500-2300. You get to wake up at a decent hour, yet still sleep at night.

I agree with the second poster about dayshifts. Most dayshifts in my experience in this business begin too damned early. I have never been a "morning person" for as long as I've known and detest waking up at predawn hours ( 0500-0530...if not earlier ) and am definately NOT at my best ( nor my friendliest ) I never could get to sleep early enough to get a good nights rest for an early rise.

Midnights? Definately will ultimately kill you before your time, but you can get through it IF you make getting your sleep and absolute and steadfast priority...though this plays hell with your social life. Ironically, the workweek is the easiest. It's the transition from/to your days off ( whenever they may be ) that proves the most challenging task. These guys that refuse to adjust to the 12 hour opposite, try to live life like they have the day off, and just fit catnaps in whenever, are miserable zombies that look like walking death.


User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5055 times:

I like it one way or the other. I like the day shift (0430-1300) because you have a ton of daylight left when you leave. I like the midnight shift (2200-0630) because you can still do stuff in the evening before you head in to work. I can't stand working afternoons (1430-2300) because you miss all the good things like sporting events, good TV shows, etc.


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User currently offlineWbmech From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

Night shift isn't too bad at first but over time you get less and less sleep during the day and get grouchier and grouchier as time goes on. Day shift is way too early. Who want to leave the house before 5 am, especially in extremely cold weather. That in my opinion is just as unnatural as working midnights. My favorite is afternoons, good nights sleep, alert the whole shift and free time before and after work. I would like to start a little later than 2 o'clock, 4 would be better in order to get more time during the day. Another side benefit to afternoons is no rush hour traffic going to work or coming home.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

How about Fatigue setting in if you've not slept well the previous night.It feels as if I've run 10 miles real fast.
The Night shift has less traffic on the Roads though.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2554 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

I don't agree with the traffic part of it. On my way home in ATL I hit some pretty bad traffic some mornings. Even coming to work sometimes is rough. Nearly all road work is done evenings in this town.

User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

I believe he ( Wbmech ) was commenting on afternoons, not mids. On mids, traffic can heavy in the morning, but it's a lot better than the normal dayshift rush-hour, which is brutal in CLT both directions.

Gotta agree with Wb on the afternoon shift thing as well. I was definately more well-rested, and had enough time to get things done before work, things that would normally kill a "weekend" day.


User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 5):
I like it one way or the other. I like the day shift (0430-1300) because you have a ton of daylight left when you leave.

0430??!! Man that's early! I'd likely spend that ton of daylight taking a nap Smile


User currently offlineCRJ200Mechanic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5008 times:

I prefer night shift myself. Less activity at the airport. You don't have turnaround times to contend with if you have a mx issue. I hate having to defer things. I know you have to sometimes, I just prefer not to. It is hard on the body because I always switch back to days over my weekend for my wife and I end up sleeping at odd hours. I think it helps our relationship because she works all day and I work all night so we only see each other on my weekend. That way I don't get fed up with her cheerful 


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User currently offlineTroubleshooter From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 423 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5001 times:

I work on nightshifts only for more than 4 years now. One funny thing I noticed is that I´m becoming hungry at night (01:00 or 02:00 o´clock) during my off days. That´s the time I usualy have my lunch break at work. Nightshifts aren´t that bad but I prefer to see the sunlight from time to time which is rather difficult during the winter period.


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User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2554 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4940 times:

I concur with the middle of the night munchies on off days. As far as my comment about traffic, Our dayshift guys at DL here in ATL have less traffic comming into work than I have leaving after midnight shift. The later I leave the worse it gets. A lot of our guys live south of the airport so they never have to deal with it. Those of us that live on the north half of the city get slammed on our trip home.

I really believe working nights for many years is taking it's toll. My grandfather worked for years on nights and told me he never slept well after that. The end for me may be in sight. I may be getting layed off when DL outsources all their heavy checks. If I do, it will be a career change for sure.


User currently offlineAvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4934 times:

Quoting CRJ200Mechanic (Reply 11):
I think it helps our relationship because she works all day and I work all night so we only see each other on my weekend. That way I don't get fed up with her

I just laughed to myself when I read that, and you are now part of my Respected Users list because I definitely know what you mean.  Big grin


User currently offlineCRJ200Mechanic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4910 times:

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 14):
you are now part of my Respected Users list

Well I appreciate that, glad I could make you laugh. Don't think my wife would laugh if she read it.



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User currently offlineAvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

I doubt very much if my other half would be laughing either if she read my reply. In fact I think I would be getting the cold shoulder for quite some time.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4890 times:

Quoting CRJ200Mechanic (Reply 11):
I think it helps our relationship because she works all day and I work all night so we only see each other on my weekend. That way I don't get fed up with her

I laughed at it too,But its true  Smile
Its the Weekends for us both too.

About the munches at Work.I earlier used to eat after the End of the Night shift,but nowadays try to skip it.Has worked well with the Weight loss.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineCRJ200Mechanic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 16):
would be getting the cold shoulder for quite some time.

I would get more than the cold shoulder. I would get the dreaded laser eye. You know, the one that could penetrate a six inch thick piece of steel, yeah that one. flamed 



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User currently offlineAmtrosie From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

For those of you who like the afternoon shift....YOU are NUTS!!!! I hated coming home in the weee hours and then trying to sleep immediately, it wasn't happening. I would end up sleeping up till the time to go to work. I got lots of sleep, but no other work got done. I am no morning person either, and had a hard time starting, except when a co-worker came in hung-over. Then all the very loud air tools and what ever else was handy came "alive" in my hands. They suffered dearly around me! As for the wife comments, oh, how true(about not seeing them all the time, and the eye/shoulder). Just plead the effects of the night shift and be reeeeeeal nice. Maybe it will work for you, although I never had much luck.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4813 times:

What about Rest after a Night Shift.Does the World let you.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineTroubleshooter From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 423 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

My family: YES!!! My wife and my son do all their best to ensure a good rest for me.

The rest of the world: NO!!! One day my landlord called me. He wants to make an appointment for the painter. As I said him that I work on nightshifts and I want the job to be done on one off my off days he answered: "nightshifts? Fine, then you are at home the whole day..."  bomb 
The postman knows when I go to bed, too. He rings about 20 min. later...  Angry

That are some of the bad aspects of living at the other end of the day...



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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

Although I do not work in the industry, i have flown my little plane both during the day time and at night time. For pilots I would have to say that the work environment would have to be better at night, less planes in the air and less of a chance of the brass at the stations upon ending the flight.

Quoting Amtrosie (Reply 1):
they all point to less effective work being performed in the 01:00 to 05:00 time frame.

- I have worked my "civilian" job on late shift for over 10 years. I have found myself enjoying working late shift and I am just as effective at night, if not more because of less distractions (except for more access time to the Internet).

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 2):
Day shift is easier on the body. People are not nocturnal creatures.

- Depends on how early day shift starts. I hate early mornings and I know I would not be as effective in the morning.

Quoting Troubleshooter (Reply 21):
One day my landlord called me. He wants to make an appointment for the painter. As I said him that I work on nightshifts and I want the job to be done on one off my off days he answered: "nightshifts? Fine, then you are at home the whole day..."
The postman knows when I go to bed, too. He rings about 20 min. later...

- That is the bad thing about working night time. No one understands why I keep my home telephone turned off during the daytime!

[Edited 2005-03-18 09:42:23]


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4761 times:

I have the same problem about the postmen. Somehow they found out that I´m on nights, so whenever a neighbour is not around to receive a parcel they ring at my door and ask me to accept it for the neighbour. Then again in early afternoon the neighbour, coming back fro his work, will ring.

Jan


User currently offlineCRJ200Mechanic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4756 times:

I live in a duplex and my neighbor is extremely loud and wakes me all the time. She is always slamming doors and her kid is screaming. I turned my radio up one night when I was getting ready for work and she came over and complained. I told her when she got her kid to shut up and to stop slamming doors I would turn it down. I told her I work nights and need my sleep during the day. She just didn't understand. She went and complained to my landlord and HA, he took my side. I have an advantage though. He used to be an A&P and worked night shift, so he knew how it was. My wife is really good. If she is home she leaves me alone. I don't have kids yet so I don't have to worry about that. Really the only time I don't get any sleep in on my weekend because I'm trying to get back on days. Believe it or not, I live a house away from my boss, so he always has something for me to do as well.


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25 LMP737 : Oh so very true! When you work opposite shifts, you find that you don't argue over the "little things" as much. Little things that other couples migh
26 Cancidas : i've been working the night shift (1300-2200) for th epast year and i have to say that i absolutely love it. i'm a nocturnal person to begin with, and
27 Post contains images HAWK21M : Initially it was tough adjusting,More so for the wife.But Gradually we got used to it. Now with a 3yr old in the house,We have an entire shift of our
28 Post contains images CRJ200Mechanic : I talked to my wife's dad, who is a ballistics expert for Lockheed and he told about the Surefire N2 Nitrolon. It was cheaper than the A2 aviator, bu
29 Amtrosie : CRJ200mechanic, With the wife, stealth is the key. I also got a dog with a good bark, that put me more at ease with the wife and kids in the house, an
30 LMP737 : The streamlights is use, the ultrastinger and stingerHP, are rechargeable so you don't have to worry about burning through batteries. Which of course
31 LMP737 : Soory I meant to say "The stremlights I use..." not "The streamlights is use...".
32 CRJ200Mechanic : Happy wife, happy life
33 Amtrosie : CRJ200mechanic, Good luck!! Hopefully you will succeed where I failed.(AIDS-aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome)
34 MidnightMike : I was comfortable working any shift, hence my nickname, Midnight Mike. It is really up to people and how they adjust, some people can simply not adju
35 NKP S2 : 1300-2200 is callled "midnight shift" where you work? Sounds like afternoons ( or 2nds or "swings" ) anywhere else.
36 HAWK21M : Out here the Shifts are like:- 1.The General Shift [0900-1800hrs] 2.The Morning shift [0600-1400hrs] 3.The Afternoon shift [1400-2200hrs] 4.The Night
37 CRJ200Mechanic : so do you work, ie monday thru thursday, then get friday off, then work saturday thru tuesday?
38 HAWK21M : I work 2300-0800hrs [Unless theres a snag then until Rectification of snag however long it takes] Mon/Tue/Fri/Sat Nights.[2300-0800hrs at the earlies
39 CRJ200Mechanic : Sounds like you work a pretty long week
40 Post contains images AvionicMech : What you should have told the other half is that this site is just about 'work and stuff' then if she is the same as my lovely lady, she wouldn't eve
41 DALMD88 : Remind me never to work in India. Those hours suck. Rotating through all those shifts in a week's time will kill you. I did it once for about six mont
42 HAWK21M : The Hrs are tough,esp since I work in a Cargo Airline so Nights are Important. Most of My Friends in other Airlines in India work the 2-2-2 system. It
43 Post contains images CRJ200Mechanic : Thats dedication, HAWK21M
44 Tiger119 : - "If Momma ain't happy, nobody's happy!" - I'm afraid if I worked that schedule I would get to the point to where I would wake up and wonder, "What
45 A/c train : 2 days,2 nights, 4 off when im working on the line and 4 days on, 4 days off in the hangar. I prefer line maintenance, so im going to be byass towards
46 Amtrosie : Hey Hawk, Those hours are rough!! I worked all three shifts in the course of a week.... once, NEVER AGAIN!!!! My hat is off to you.
47 Post contains images HAWK21M : Thanks.Yes its tough.Especially if one has not rested well prior to the Night Shift. Did I tell you about the Fog season duties.Well thats another st
48 RiffedAAMech : When I worked at American Airlines I worked the 2030 to 0500 shift. Now I work at an oil company refinery here in LA and work 12hr rotating shifts. I
49 Amtrosie : Hawk, Fog season duties???
50 Amtrosie : That sounds like me on the 10th thru whatever straight night of working 16 plus hours a night.
51 Post contains images HAWK21M : Normally Between November to February each year,fog strikes Northern India in the Early hours around 0100hrs & extends till 0900hrs eachday.Its parti
52 OzLAME : I just started a line maintenance position about four months ago: two 0530-1600, two 1200-0000 then four off. I don't like the early starts and about
53 HAWK21M : Do you all manage time for outings with Family/Friends. I try to get in atleast 1-2 day/week outing with the Family & friends. regds MEL
54 OzLAME : MEL, I'm still working out what to do as I've only been on shift since December, but I've suggested to my girlfriend that as I am now working five wee
55 CRJ200Mechanic : I do the best I can usually. My wife will come in and see me on her way home from work since the airport is on her way to the house. On my weekends I
56 Post contains images HAWK21M : And do you get free time to meet up. Where you mean stay at the Airport. Its the same for me.The Wife gets very concerned if I dontrest well the prev
57 CRJ200Mechanic : I had her stay at our shop. I didn't take her out on the field. Our shop is in a non-secure area, not controlled by security. I had her see all the p
58 AvionicMech : Wow that is a definite keeper for you mate, don't let her go!! I don't think my other half would even know how to get to the airport let alone the ha
59 CRJ200Mechanic : Don't plan to. She grew up around airplanes. Her dad is a ballistics expert for Lockheed and sometimes he would work on the missle systems, so she ha
60 MD11Engineer : With me it is the other way around. My girlfriend is a nurse as well, and since I worked for a while in a hospital (porter and general handyman in an
61 HAWK21M : Since Night shifts are an option for both partners,ever consider it together,thus getting the Day free for both. regds MEL
62 Troubleshooter : I took my wife with me (prior 9/11 it was easier to give her access to the apron) and I showed her some aircrafts and what we do during the night. Hel
63 CRJ200Mechanic : Believe or not, its a pain for my wife to get night shifts. Because its an odd shift the pay is better and alot of people want it. She did get it onc
64 DALMD88 : Wow, you got your wife to spend an entire night shift at work? I've tried to get mine to tag along, but nothing doing. She even passes on the visiting
65 CRJ200Mechanic : My wife loves to go to airshows. It's her favorite thing to do. For christmas this year she bought me a ride on a Texan. She was able to find a jumps
66 HAWK21M : True to an Extent. regds MEL
67 HAWK21M : Isn't the Airport a restricted area always. regds MEL
68 TwinCommander : 2200 - 0800 3 nights in a row, then 2 nights and a day off and a 1200 - 2200 shift on Fridays, repeat the process Sunday night at 2200. What sucks the
69 HAWK21M : Its normally the time between 0500-0600 hrs on a 2300-0800 shift thats the toughest if One has not rested well the previous day. regds MEL
70 CRJ200Mechanic : At our airport, anyone can get on the field so long as they are being escorted by someone holding the proper badge and ID
71 HAWK21M : Out here,the person visiting has to have a Temp Airport pass,after Police verification Formalities & also needs to be escorted around by an Experienc
72 TwinCommander : Wow, I guess i really do work at the easiest airport to gain access to.
73 HAWK21M : Im surprised at the relaxed security at most Airports around the world.Is it the same for International Airports too. regds MEL
74 TwinCommander : Well... Around our area, there's nothing but a 5.5 foot chain link fence that you can easily hop over. We have had no incidents yet, but IM sure the p
75 Boeing7E7 : It shakes out like this: Work mornings if you have a life Work evenings if you need to party Work nights if you can't stand the bureacracy Work a rota
76 AussieAMEgirl : LOL Did that for 3 years and it sucks after a while too cause there are just as many chiefs on at night as there were during the day... After 3 years
77 HAWK21M : What about Security Guards,Isn't that a requirement for Airports. regds MEL
78 Amtrosie : Boeing7E7, I am LOL!!! The truth--thats all!!!
79 CRJ200Mechanic : We have airport police, but they are usually napping at night when I work. You will see one doing his sweeps around the active, another checking the
80 Post contains images HAWK21M : Out here I wake them up telling them "Was that your In-charge that just walked passed you,seeing you napping." Then its panic to find out. regds MEL
81 CRJ200Mechanic : thats pretty funny. Gotta give them something to do to stay awake
82 TwinCommander : well... We are a bit too small for airport police. one night, I was towing one of our lifeflight birds back to the hanger and 2 city cops were parked
83 HAWK21M : When Mx staff move to the Tarmac with those Maglite hanging at the side,at times the Security folk do get panicy & enquire. Is there an HR rule that s
84 Post contains images Nonfirm : I would say for me the shift that is the easiest to work is swings.
85 Valcory : I would say mignight's i have three days off i don't have to deal with any gate calls
86 Post contains images HAWK21M : Too bad For me its 5 nights/week & One night on Standby.That leaves Sunday regds MEL
87 777WT : As I work in Line Mx, I work dayshift 5 days a week from 0530 to 1400. My commute to the airport is about 35 mins. The night before, I take a shower,
88 777WT : There's an FAR (Federal Air Regulations) that states one must have 24 hours off per week or 96 hours off per month. I know this because I had to sign
89 HAWK21M : Very Detailed Description there.Thanks for sharing. About the Time Limitation.Who monitors this in Maintenance. regds MEL
90 SB : As a pilot I really love night flying. The air is calmer, the radio quieter, the controllers (generally) less stressed, and you see your traffic for m
91 Buzz : Hi MEL, Buzz here. I prefer to work nights, been on the midnight crew since '85. I tell people that I've got hours to solve problems, and there's a la
92 Post contains images HAWK21M : Thats one Advantage Over the years doing Night shifts I've noticed that the time spent being Awake is increasing every night & one tends to feel less
93 MD11Engineer : Since about 1 1/2 years I'm working for a different company as a shiftleader. My shift is now 5 days 7am to 7pm, then 5 days off, followed by 5 nights
94 HAWK21M : During those 5 days/nighters Can you manage time for other personal work apart from Sleep & travel. regds MEL
95 MD11Engineer : No, normally not. I live about 25 km away from the airport (about 20 minutes by car), I just eat and go to bed to get up some 8 hours later to dress,
96 HAWK21M : You are Lucky to get 8 hrs of rest.I struggle to get 5-6 hrs after a Night shift.Currently its been average 12-16 hrs a Night as Fog at Del has most
97 Post contains images G4LASRamper : I've had both day and night jobs over the years. Did several years of cubicle dwelling, which was basically 1000 to 1800 M-F (the company let us come
98 HAWK21M : Do you get called from home after finishing a night shift.Thats the worst.But its a Job & one has to do it. regds MEL
99 G4LASRamper : Personally? Not yet. But I expect it will happen at some point. I've seen it happen to some of the more experienced guys. Have also seen the day guys
100 Post contains images HAWK21M : In the past 7 months.It been only a Sunday when I know I won't get a call to work. But trying to live with it regds MEL
101 Post contains images HAWK21M : Just thought of this........& was wondering. How many nights in Mx per week is normally performed by Mx personnell worldwide,considering "only Night"
102 DALMD88 : I don't quite understand your phrasing. For most airlines in the US most of the man hours for MX is done during the 10pm to 6am time frame. Take my st
103 HAWK21M : True for Airlines having 24x7 ops.For Freighter ops at STN other than Main base,work involves line Mx.For Major Mx work We move to main base for the d
104 Ilikeyyc : I work nights and I love my shift. 1800-0430, 4 times a week. I love working nights in the summer because it is much cooler, there are fewer people ar
105 HAWK21M : Why no Supervisors/managers.Is this a night halt for Aircraft.What type. regds MEL
106 LMP737 : What I think he means is that there are not as many supervisors or managers walking around during the night shift.
107 A10WARTHOG : I totally agree. I have found the places I have worked at, the managers know nothing about the aircraft. All they know is when it leaves and if it is
108 ReidYYZ : This applies to me as well. I've explained to my wife, a good manager knows about the aircraft and how to deal with people. Mine fails at both, but d
109 Post contains images HAWK21M : Hopefully....Cause I noticed the word no. Are these Managers qualified on the systems eg Mx managers with A&Ps etc. Not at all.This is the debate I h
110 Ilikeyyc : There is no manager and only one supervisor at night. While he is supposed to oversee the whole operation at night, he stays in the other hangar and
111 HAWK21M : Its great that the Supervisor is confident about you guys,but theoritically its not adequate then why not increase manpower to supervise. regds MEL
112 DALMD88 : A good operation shouldn't need many managers. At DL the lead mechanics run the workload on the aircraft. The main tasks of the manager is personnel
113 Ilikeyyc : Here is a fable that I heard several years ago, but it was a slightly different varriation- Southwest vs. a legacy carrier: The Americans and the Jap
114 Post contains images HAWK21M : Reminds me of HAL in BLR.70% seems to be designated as some Manager regds MEL
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