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Front Window On An Airliner?  
User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1299 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 3673 times:

I was wondering if it would be possible to install a front window on the A380 or 747 for the passengers to look out. Since they have two decks, could a window not be placed on the deck which doesn't have the cockpit so that the passengers could have a great view?

Just a thought.

A346Dude


You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
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User currently offline727EMflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

There is a weather radar dish in the way on the 747, so no to that one. The space is probably otherwise employed on the A380 too.
A better idea is to install cameras accessible on PTV's. you could have several different views and their wouldn't be a problem of a gathering crowd. Of course if you want a good view inflight, the best way to get it is to fly the plane yourself!


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 1):
A better idea is to install cameras accessible on PTV's.

Some Airbus aircraft already have this feature, it's pretty cool to see the runway at landing and take off.

Staffan


User currently offlineJetlagged From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 2577 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months ago) and read 3284 times:

Not just Airbus. For example, JAL and ANA have had such cameras on their 747's for years, probably on other types with IFE too. The camera is usually mounted on the nose gear. It does make takeoff, landing and taxiing much more interesting.


The glass isn't half empty, or half full, it's twice as big as it needs to be.
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 1):
A better idea is to install cameras accessible on PTV's

That would be more better,so no rush to the window.Seated in the Seat Entertainment.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

Wouldn't be a rush to the window anyway as the front section of most aircraft is business- or first class and people in cattle class aren't allowed to go there.


I wish I were flying
User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

The problem with the nose gear camera though is that when the gear retracts you cant see anything so I would have thought some dome on the bottom so u can see so you can see under the plane instead of the boring out the side


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21522 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

The tail camera would still work.

User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Emirates have cameras pointing down and forward - not on the nose gear. Both are viewable at any time - including while they're still loading/unloading the plane! On the A330s and B777s at least, if not other crafts.

Some have tail mount cameras which actually look pretty good as you can see most of the plane in the picture too!

Geoff M.


User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

The window would be expensive to install and maintain and would probably make some passengers sick.


Try not to be jealous, we can't all be Czech.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2975 times:

If they are taking out tiny eyebrow windows because of maintenance costs, do you think anyone would want a large front window? Highly unlikely anyone would get it even if they offered it.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 10):
Highly unlikely anyone would get it even if they offered it.

How about Emirates  Smile $$$$$
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2572 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Considering the amount of bug-splatter we have to wash off the cockpit windows every day I can't imagine an airline would want to put a window up front with the added maintenance cost of keeping it clean. Then add in the structural problems of protecting against bird strikes, lightning strikes etc, and the window would end up being so thick you'd never see anything out of it anyway. I think the cameras are a better idea for the majority of passengers too. Anyone more than a couple rows away from a window like that wouldn't be able to see much of anything.

HAL

[Edited 2005-05-06 11:54:49]


One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
User currently offlineHelsin99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2615 times:

Some of the smaller Soviet airliners had a front window on them. I was amazed the first time I saw one at Helsinki in 1999 (can't remember the type). Don't know if was for navigation or for intelligence gathering, but I doubt that it was for the passenger's viewing pleasure.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
How about Emirates $$$$$

Let me rephrase. No one who cares about how much money they spend would buy the option.  Wink

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

I'm all for PTVs that show the front view camera, I'm not sure how pilots think as they would be further judged on their landing. I have had many landings with those crazy WN pilots where I wish I had an instant replay just to see what happened.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 15):
I'm all for PTVs that show the front view camera

Maybe a Tail mounted Camera would provide a better & More Interesting view.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
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