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How Do You Change A Wheel On An Airliner?  
User currently offlineAjet From France, joined Jan 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 19462 times:

Silly question, but I'd like to know that:
how do you change a wheel on an airliner?
(I can't imagine they're using a jack!)

Thanks!

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 19460 times:

Quoting Ajet (Thread starter):
(I can't imagine they're using a jack!)

why not?



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 19448 times:

Certainly looked like it to me when I saw them changing not one but two wheels on an inbound HKT - and we had the same captain going to BKK! (The landing at BKK was actually the best I've ever had...).

Not your usual car jack but a a jack nonetheless. Sort of cage thing. A300 if that makes any difference.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 19423 times:

I've seen it happen on a LY B747-400 which burst a tyre on landing at LHR. By the time they had towed the aircraft from the end of 27L to its stand, there was a 'wheel change vehicle' with a new tyre ready and waiting. Can't remember exactly what was done, but it was changed pretty fast and I don't think there was any significant delay to the departure back to TLV.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 19420 times:

It's just like changing a tire on a car. You jack it, remove the 'lug nut', remove the old tire...put on the new tire, tighten the 'lug nut' lower the jack. Most aircarft tires are held on by a single large splined nut which is locked on by retaining bolts and then safety wired. Here are several pictures from several different types of planes, but as you see the process in nearly identical....


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User currently offlineAJet From France, joined Jan 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 19358 times:

Thanks to you all, and especially to EMBQA for these well-chosen pictures. I just couldn't believe before seeing it, that you could actually jack the front gear of a jumbo jet!

Ajet


User currently offlineKerberos From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 19266 times:

Haha:


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This pic made me laugh... You've got to be careful where you park your 747 these days.... bastards will stop at nothing to steal your wheels



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User currently offlineOzLAME From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 19243 times:

On the Swearingen/Fairchild Metro series and the SAAB 340 it is permissable to put a small ramp in front of the wheel next to the one you are changing and tow the aircraft up onto it, this gets the wheel to be changed off the ground very quickly and easily.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 19226 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 3):
I've seen it happen on a LY B747-400 which burst a tyre on landing at LHR. By the time they had towed the aircraft from the end of 27L to its stand, there was a 'wheel change vehicle' with a new tyre ready and waiting. Can't remember exactly what was done, but it was changed pretty fast and I don't think there was any significant delay to the departure back to TLV.

A Tyre burst & towed,would necessate extra load on the remaining tyres.
On the B737s if An Aircraft is towed or has rolled with one flat tire,the Adjacent wheel is also replaced as its likely to have been loaded abnormally.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 19207 times:

Doing it the Halliburton way... you don't. Just buy a new airliner and send the bill to the owner of the old one.

- JHSfan



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User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19115 times:

Quoting Kerberos (Reply 6):
Haha



This pic made me laugh... You've got to be careful where you park your 747 these days.... bastards will stop at nothing to steal your wheels

This picture was taken in Manchester? Right?

Rgds.


User currently offlineKC135R From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 728 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19108 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
It's just like changing a tire on a car. You jack it, remove the 'lug nut', remove the old tire...put on the new tire, tighten the 'lug nut' lower the jack. Most aircarft tires are held on by a single large splined nut which is locked on by retaining bolts and then safety wired. Here are several pictures from several different types of planes, but as you see the process in nearly identical....

Do you know if any civilian airplanes have anything like the integral jacking found on the C-17? It seems like a good idea.


User currently offlineAir2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19087 times:

I know of no civilian airliners that have integral jacking. The weight penalty would be too severe. The C-17 has the advantage of being able to refuel in flight, which allows it a higher basic operating weight.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 19066 times:

KC135-

None that I know about. I'm sure it was added to the C-17 as part of the design contract. I'm guessing it was added to the aircraft so it could be maintained at airfields with little to no GSE.



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User currently offlineRayBolt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 19044 times:

NW had to change a DC9 tire up here in GFK last year. The comment on the photo describes the situation, but the pilots felt something while taxiing, and NW had to fly a mx crew up for the change.


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User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4845 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 18897 times:
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Saw WN's line mx guys at LAX replace a wheel on the main gear during the turn. Only caused a 5-10 minute delay. Other than that, the turning of the aircraft went as normal. That impressed me...


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 18807 times:

Wheel change with all tools ready can be done in Ten minutes [during transit time of 30 minutes].
I think Brake change during Transit is tougher due Temperatures Involved  Smile
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18790 times:
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Quoting KC135R (Reply 11):
Do you know if any civilian airplanes have anything like the integral jacking found on the C-17?

I'm no expert but this is easier to do on transports with kneeling gear..
Does it have self jacking or do they put stand under A/C then kneel the gear? That seems to me the easy way.

Some Citroen cars had a similar capability.

Rgds

Chris



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2465 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18785 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
A Tyre burst & towed,would necessate extra load on the remaining tyres.
On the B737s if An Aircraft is towed or has rolled with one flat tire,the Adjacent wheel is also replaced as its likely to have been loaded abnormally

MEL would it not make sence to change both anyway as the tred patern or the uneven wear between the new and old tyre be unbalanceing to the aircraft.?



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 18764 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 18):
MEL would it not make sence to change both anyway as the tred patern or the uneven wear between the new and old tyre be unbalanceing to the aircraft.?

Not necessary.Uneveness more likely to affect NLG more than MLG.
Unless there is a very big difference in the condition of adjacent Tires.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineUAL Bagsmasher From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2148 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 18753 times:

I have heard stories of aircraft whose nose gears are canted forward, having their nose tires changed without jacking. You turn the nosegear fully in one direction or the other. The result is that one of the two nose tires actually leaves the ground without the use of a jack. You can see this on a DC-10 in a sharp turn. Only one nose wheel is touching the ground. A tire change in this manner can't really be safe, but I've heard of it being done.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14129 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18747 times:

Quoting UAL Bagsmasher (Reply 20):
I have heard stories of aircraft whose nose gears are canted forward, having their nose tires changed without jacking. You turn the nosegear fully in one direction or the other. The result is that one of the two nose tires actually leaves the ground without the use of a jack. You can see this on a DC-10 in a sharp turn. Only one nose wheel is touching the ground. A tire change in this manner can't really be safe, but I've heard of it being done.

You can do this on an MD-11.

Usual procedure for changing wheel (generic):

1) Jack wheel up (often you´ll use an air powered jack and just take the air from the old tyre). At the same time it will deflate the tyre (necessary for safety reasons)
2) remove hub cap
3) Remove safety bolt on axle nut
4) remove axle nut
5) remove axle washer (if installed, the A300-600 doesn´t use them)
6) put on axle thread protector
7) set parking brake
8) depending on size of wheel either slide old wheel off by hand or use wheel trolley
9) clean axle and axle spacer of old grease and inspect axle and brake unit for damage
10) put a little high temperature grease on bearing surfaces of axle and spacer (we use Grease
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11) Reinstall axle spacer
12) slide on new wheel
13) Install axle washer and loosely install axle nut
14) release parking brake
15) while one person turns the wheel, the other person pretorques the axle nut (to set the
bearings)
16) release axle nut
17) while one person turns the wheel torque axle nut to final torque
18) Install and safety safety bolt.
19) install hub cap
20) Check tyre pressure
21) dejack plane
22) do paperwork and sign off in log book.


Jan


User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18728 times:

Quoting UAL Bagsmasher (Reply 20):
I have heard stories of aircraft whose nose gears are canted forward, having their nose tires changed without jacking. You turn the nosegear fully in one direction or the other. The result is that one of the two nose tires actually leaves the ground without the use of a jack. You can see this on a DC-10 in a sharp turn. Only one nose wheel is touching the ground. A tire change in this manner can't really be safe, but I've heard of it being done.

This works on the entire DC-9 family as well as the ATR-72.


User currently offlineOzLAME From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 18668 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19):
Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 18):
MEL would it not make sence to change both anyway as the tred patern or the uneven wear between the new and old tyre be unbalanceing to the aircraft.?

Not necessary.Uneveness more likely to affect NLG more than MLG.
Unless there is a very big difference in the condition of adjacent Tires.
regds
MEL

I can't speak for other larger aircraft but on the SAAB 340 you have to change the nose wheels as a pair to prevent nose wheel shimmy. As pointed out above, it isn't necessary to change MLG wheels in pairs.



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User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 18622 times:

just a quick question.. on that picture with the 747 nose wheel jacked up.. isn't that putting a rather large amount of weight on a pretty small space? It looks like the space where it hits the ground couldn't be more then 10"x10"

25 L-188 : Correct, seen this procedure quite a few times. Otherwise the jack is needed. When I worked for Reeve out in the Bush they stockpiled some assembled
26 OzLAME : Consider the footprint of the nose wheel tyres; it's not too much more than that.
27 HAWK21M : Is the Replaced Tire deflated prior to installation & recharged after Installation. How is it done at your area. regds MEL
28 Air2gxs : We always deflate the wheel assembly before removing it, but the servicible unit comes inflated, we just top it off. One reason to deflate, is safety
29 HAWK21M : Out here Even the New Replacement serviceable wheel is recvd with reduced pressure to avoid Injury during Transport.After it has been installed,it is
30 UAL Bagsmasher : When performing a brake change, and not changing the tire, is it your practice to deflate the MLG tire before removal and top it off after the brake c
31 HAWK21M : Everytime a Wheel is to be removed irrespective if during U/s Wheel replacement or Brake change facilatation,Deflating is a must.After Reinstallation
32 A/c train : As Hawk says, you should deflate the wheel before removing it for a brake change, people have been killed by not doing this, seriously. Also you shoul
33 HAWK21M : Why did you include the type ie 757. regds MEL
34 Lemurs : Can you give an explanation on that? I guess I don't know the physical charactaristics of the wheel/tire to know how this is dangerous. I know that a
35 MD11Engineer : Because, unlike with cars, an aircraft rim consists of two halves, which are held together by the tie bolts. If the tie bolts are damaged, the axle nu
36 Kaddyuk : I've seen wheels removed without deflating... saves time and effort... but as people have said, its highly dangerous...
37 Post contains images HAWK21M : Better Late than Never......Always Deflate prior to Wheel removal regds MEL
38 ATCT : Ok I cant resist............Very Carefully :P ATCT
39 HAWK21M : Have you ever tried Jacking the MLG axle to change Two Deflated tires on that side Gear. Any practical Tips. regds MEL
40 MD11Engineer : You mean two deflated tyres on the same axle? You�ll need a rhino jack, that can work with the little ground clearance. Jan
41 Post contains links Air2gxs : You need a Rhino Jack, also called a recovery jack. Basically the jack pad sits only about 2 or 3 inches of the ground. The jack stradles the gear and
42 Post contains links Dan2002 : The link is http://www.vpnavy.com/vp94_2003.html ,you added a comma to the link. Interesting 404 error tho.. -Dan
43 HAWK21M : What if thats not available. Jan....Your posts seems to have a lot of i¿½. What does it mean. regds MEL
44 MD11Engineer : It is a problem with the forum. If I type in an apostrophe ´ or the German characters ä, ö, ü and ß they get printed this way ä,ö
45 Air2gxs : Your options are pretty limited to "use your imagination". We once towed the offending wheel set onto blocks of wood in order to raise the jack point
46 HAWK21M : That was the option available.But We preffered to Deflate the Oleo on the Affected gear,Tied the Scissor links together & raised the Aircraft slightl
47 Bongo : It is common even with passengers onboard... It happened to me last year in CDG on an AF B737 !!! I was on the window and I saw almost the whole proce
48 IL76TD : IL-76's carry a small hydraulic jack about the size of 3 cereal boxes which can be used to change main or nose tires. All the aircraft travel with min
49 HAWK21M : What happens when the Aircraft rolls with deflated tires.Are the rest changed along with the u/s ones,as the load distribution has been affected. Thi
50 Post contains images A/c train : the amount of fibbers replying on this topic !! MD-11engineer, you typed out a wheel change procedure generic, but forgot too mention too release the
51 Air2gxs : If I remember my maintenance manual correctly, and I may be wrong, the brakes must be released when jacking/de-jacking a dual tandem bogie or gear th
52 MD11Engineer : Sorry, my bad! I assumed that the plane was parked with parking brake off and wheels chocked, as it is standard for better brake cooling after landing
53 HAWK21M : How is the Brake held on a B777 Axle.I heard just One Antirotational Bolt/Nut.Can anyone confirm. regds MEL
54 IL76TD : hawk21m, aircraft landing/rolling with one deflated tires makes no difference on an IL as all gear assembly's are 4 wide so the load balance isn't hor
55 HAWK21M : Any reason why Western Aircraft dont have such multiple ply for Commercial use.Is it Weight saving or better Landing strips. regds MEL
56 IL76TD : probably a little bit of both...
57 Jeb94 : Number of plys depends on tire manufacturer and the intended use of the tire. Many Russian aircraft are designed for rough fields. The airframes are r
58 Post contains links and images LouA340 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Justin Cederholm Looking at the description for this picture it said the aircraft gave its spare tire to another 74
59 EMBQA : None. In this case the tire was robbed to get the second plane out. I'd guess they made that decission based on schedules. The doner planes was due o
60 LouA340 : I know it all pretty much boils down to the aircraft weight, but couldnt they then carry an extra tyre during flights so that in a situation where you
61 Kaddyuk : Some airlines do carry spare wheels in the bulk for exactly that reason. If you've got an aircraft flying to an airport which does not have technical
62 HAWK21M : Out here.None. Most Airports will have operators than Spares can be procured from.If not then Spares would need to be transported in on another Aircr
63 TristarSteve : Yes same as B757 and B767. The brake slides onto the axle and an anti torsion rod stops it rotating. The wheel holds it in place. Tristar has same de
64 Kaddyuk : If memory serves me correctly, the B747 is held on the same way only being held in place by the Torque Linkage and the wheel itself over the top I Als
65 A/c train : Tristar, did you raise an MOR ? or tuck it under the carpet as a hyd leak or something else ?
66 CO738 : Well here in the US and Canada we have what is called AAA ( American Automobile Association) and since most aircraft fall into the "heavy category" AA
67 Post contains images DC-10Tech : While this is definitely not an approved procedure, it does get done from time to time. When I was a flight mechanic with a couple of DC-10/MD-11 ope
68 ReidYYZ : It appears that the '57 still has the same problem that I used to encounter years ago. It is that the '57 main wheel asseblies are still prone to tie
69 Post contains links and images 2H4 : Man I love aviation terminology... Here's another unapproved method: View Large View MediumPhoto © Daniel Danielsen 2H4
70 TWAL1011727 : Gloves help...A brake assembly change takes about 1/2 to 1 hr depending on the equip on hand, maybe more time on widebodies. BTW..Thats after the tir
71 HAWK21M : Depends on the Aircraft Type & Number of Attachment bolts present. A B752 would be
72 A/c train : if you use the method of turning the nose leg to max angle and then changing the nosewheel, you are leaving a lot of weight on one wheel for an extend
73 Christeljs : I was onboard Aer Lingus once and we were about to push back when the pilot announced that we had to change a tyre and a break-disc. This was done whi
74 Airgypsy : The gate race. Get those tires changed. The C-5 can jack it own gear. Onboard compressor for inflation and axel mounted valves for deflation. The mant
75 HAWK21M : A Single Disc on the Brake cannot be changed on line.The Entire Brake Assembly would need replacement.The Brake unit would be despatched to the Brake
76 Aogdesk : I have an IL-76 parked outside right now, and I was just looking at the MLG. It appears as if changing the inboard mains would be difficult due to the
77 Post contains links and images 2H4 : That's precisely what they use! View Large View MediumPhoto © Yuxiaobin 2H4
78 Fr8mech : Certainly not typical for a fuselage jack to be used for a nose wheel change, even if it is both of them. A bottle jack (30-60 ton) is quite sufficie
79 Post contains images BAe146QT : I expected to see the name "HAWK21M" where in fact it says "Aogdesk". He is without doubt our champion thread ressurrector. Incidentally, (and apropo
80 Post contains images Aogdesk : I was terrified that if I started a new thread entitled "IL-76 MLG Wheel R&R" that the A.net gestapo would be knocking at my door in the middle of th
81 BAe146QT : Wish I could help but I have no idea. Perhaps they jack it up by the body so that the strut goes out to its full extension and therefore clear of the
82 Post contains images JetMech : Here are some photos, it appears however that they have removed all the wheels Regards, JetMech
83 LMP737 : One piece of equipment I recomend for a tire change is a tire dolly. I know some guys who like to manhandle main tires, usually the same guys who end
84 MD11Engineer : Dependes on the aircraft type. E.g. a 737 nose wheel is about the same size and weight as a normal car wheel, also a 757 main wheel isn't that heavy.
85 Post contains images BAe146QT : Well I'll be. If this is normal procedure, it looks like I might have been right for a change. Gorgeous looking aircraft, by the way. Utilitarian, bu
86 Wirelock : Quoting BAe146QT (Reply 79): I expected to see the name "HAWK21M" where in fact it says "Aogdesk". He is without doubt our champion thread ressurrect
87 LMP737 : Naturally nose tires on aircraft like the 737, MD-80, F100 etc you don't need lifting equipment. 757 main's are not that bad, however one has to reme
88 Post contains images HAWK21M : And a Poor innocent Guy is being framed On the topic By the look I guess the Doors would have access to removal,prior to wheel change.Anyone from Mx
89 Surfpunk : MD11Engineer, I have a question for you: When doing a NLG tire change on an MD-11, do you have to install the tail stand to prevent tipping? Or on any
90 Fr8Mech : No, we do not need to install any kind of tail support. You just need to trust that the folks loading the aircraft are doing their job. And really, i
91 HAWK21M : I've not worked on the MD11,but Jacking the NLG or MLG for the same will not cause a severe CG shift. Hwever it pays to ensure that Equipment/trestle
92 Surfpunk : Thanks for the reply. I was just curious, as we had to load MD-11s, DC-10s, and 727s with an equal fuel amount across the wing and center fuel tanks
93 HAWK21M : Does the Fill Wing tanks full before Ctr Tank apply on the type. regds MEL
94 Tdscanuck : Trijets generally don't have that requirement, since it allows them to run tank-to-engine for much of the flight. Tom.
95 Surfpunk : No. The trijets would have each of the left wing, center, and right wing tanks filled equally up to the capacity of the wing tanks (which were less t
96 HAWK21M : That makes sense.As Structural point of view,the Wing tanks would need to be filled to capacity before the Center tanks can be filled. regds MEL
97 Fr8Mech : No, on a trijet, the wings and center tank are filled at the same level until the wings are filled to capacity. The rest is dumped into the center. (
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