Aerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 15070 times:
Yes I agree. He needs atleast a few thousand hours and Then he can Be considered to be an Airline Pilot. As He is 25, I suggest that he gets the other 3 000 or more hours quickley.
Also having a rating in an Aircraft with a glass cockpit will boost your chances.
Ralgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 15061 times:
Having a type rating means zero if you don't have the experience in that airplane to go with it. Unfortunately, he will probably find that even when he gets a couple thousand more hours, the type rating will not help (unless he gets those couple thousand more hours in a dash-8).
FlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6781 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15022 times:
Well what license does he have? ATPL?
If he lives in Europe than maybe 500-800 mores hours could get him an job. How many Multi and IFR hours does he have. You want atleast 150 Multi and not sure how many IFR maybe 100.
In the US you will need atleast 1400 hours have a chance at a Regional Job unless you have some connections.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
LimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 746 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 14906 times:
Actually, you are a likely candidate to get hired by LIAT or Caribbean Star in the Caribbean. Both airlines are looking for Dash 8 pilots right now. With you having a Dash 8 rating as well, that would be a big plus for you!!
You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
Saab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1608 posts, RR: 11 Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 14767 times:
Depending on what type of airline he is looking for, it could be a huge advantage.
The question is being asked from Europe and there are some Dash 8 operators there which require that you pay for your own training.
If he has the ME/CPL/IFR and a JAA Frozen ATPL, he could probably sell himself to someone like Cirrus or Tyrollean. Just a guess.
The time requirements in Europe are quite different than in the US. I got my first job over there with 260 hours, flying a Saab2000. I did not have the rating. But I lived in Switzerland and had the Swiss licenses, which helped a lot. Crossair trained us on the Saab and we all got our type ratings.
Saab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1608 posts, RR: 11 Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 14739 times:
It is very different in Europe. Over there pilots do not instruct for 1000 hours in a 152.
Besides, some US carriers require that you either come with or buy your own type rating. Southwest Airlines is such an airline.
Everyone gets down on other companies which require their pilots to pay for training, but nobody gets down on Southwest Airlines.
I was once chatting with a Southwest pilot in a hotel. He was all pompous and all because he flies a bigger airplane than I do. I told him that I disapprove of WN's requirement that the pilots train themselves at their own cost. I could see him getting pretty hot under the collar.
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16359 posts, RR: 66 Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14708 times:
Quoting Saab2000 (Reply 10): He was all pompous and all because he flies a bigger airplane than I do.
Yeah, cause the 738 is really enormous lol.
The problem with pilot jobs is that so many people are pilots due to a "calling". They want to be pilots. Plus you have all the military pilots. So it's easy for employers to be picky with their requirements. If no one wanted to be a pilot except for the money, things would be quite different.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - from Citadel by John Ringo
ATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2101 posts, RR: 39 Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14644 times:
Im surpised that someone wasnt brought up the US ATP license. Last I checked the minimum was 1500 hours. And frankly, at 250 hours (the minimum for a Commercial License) you are going to be hard pressed to find a job flying a Cessna 182 for sky diving let alone an airline. Now you could be lucky (or stubborn, depending on your interpretation) to get a job right seat on something such as a King Air or a single pilot biz jet, but that all depends on who ya know. Anywho if you do want to get into pro-piloting, Id advise your CFI as soon as possible. Anywho best of lucka nd keep the blue side up.
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Saab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1608 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14639 times:
The requirements in Europe a different than in the US. If the time requirements of the US were applied to Europe there would be no pilots there because "grass roots" G/A does not exist to nearly the same extent as it does here.
There is no local FBO looking for CFIs. There are not many local glider clubs or parachute clubs or banner towing opportunities.
The training in Europe through the CPL/IFR/ME is much harder than it is in the US.
Most airlines in Europe require a minimum of 200 hours, a current JAA CPL/IFR/ME and a frozen ATPL in order to be competitive. Then the candidate will go through a fairly stringent interview process, often with extensive psychological screening, and a very thorough simulator check. Additionally, a written test is also normal. Only when all that is passed will the candidate get a job.
I saw a lot of good pilots over there never get jobs for one reason or another.
The fact is that the US system does just fine in its production of pilots and Europe does just fine with its system. Neither is better than the other, as they both have a lot of filters before you will ever fly a serious airplane.
Next time anyone gets on an airliner in Europe I bet you would be shocked to hear the flight time of the F/Os.
The job is not that hard hard and it does not take 2000 hours experience to be competent to sit in the right seat of a Dash 8.