Jake056 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3748 times:
I am looking to purchase ear protection. I do not work in this industry (am an aviation enthusiast!!). I do use a lot of power tools and have very sensitive hearing. I've tried the soft foam ear plugs and the head sets from Sears, but still am not satisfied. I thought maybe the ear protection you guys on the ground use must be better. You know, industrial strength. Am I wrong? If your headsets are better, who makes them? Where can I buy them?
If this isn't the right forum, apologies. I'm just trying to find any info on REALLY TOP NOTCH ear protection.
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3747 times:
I prefer some good quality foam/rubber-ish earplugs, while using my Blisten (sp?) 717 earmuffs...comfortable yet durable, I can drop them all the time and nothing happens. Get around those 737-200's, they get loud, but it helps block out alot of it. Now to find something to block out the jetblast
ORDflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3740 times:
When I was working on the ramp I just used the cheapy foam disposable earplugs that were given free to us...the ramp noise never really bothered me. However, at home I also use a lot of power tools and occasionally go target shooting. For those purposes I use a set of Remington headphones that I got at Gander Mountain. You can pick them or something similar to them up at any gun store or outdoor store probably.
If you really want to see some good ear protection I would suggest stopping by an indoor pistol range. Yes, a bit weird ...but the noise inside them is incredible that good ear protection is a must
UAcsOKC From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 107 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3735 times:
Look for the NRR, noise reduction rating, on the sets you are looking at. the higher the number, the better sound protection they afford. Earplugs are usually better than muffs, with a high of 33,34, while muffs usually have a high of around 29,30. by the way, doubling up doesn't do much good, because sound comes in through your skull too. Hope this helps, Chris
I love the rumble of a 727 takeoff in the morning!
That's not what they told us in training....they told us wearing both will reduce sound by up to 7dB, but using muffs alone gives alot more protection than plugs, if worn correctly. I can definately tell a difference with the muffs.
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4536 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3596 times:
Southwest provides us with three types of hearing protection. There is the foam one wich have the highest dB rating, plugs on a plastic band that can go from resting on your neck to in your ears in a flash, and then ear muff-like protection which I think has the lowest protection.
I dont like the foam ones becuase they take too long to put in correctly and I like being able to take my plugs off and put them on at any instant depending on where I am. Plus I dont think my ears are shaped right inside. I can never get those foam earplugs to stay all the way in correctly. They only reduce noise to safe levels if inserted correctly. it bugs the hell out of me.
Also, protection can be a tough thing to deal with. Of course for ear protection, you want the highest dB reduction. But if you have too much protection, it becomes a safety issue as too much reduction keeps you from hearing things you need to be able to hear for situation awareness. And there are times when you need to be able to hear others speak to you out there. It's tough to hear someone when you have maximum protection.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
Jeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 588 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3571 times:
Check sporting goods stores, gun stores, and hardware stores. Most of the hearing protection used on the ramps are nothing special, though some companies and departments do provide for headsets that plug into two-way radios which are somewhat pricey and the ones that plug into the aircraft which are somewhat specialized.
Pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3082 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3570 times:
I double up. Wearing my DC muffs and a pair of foam plugs under them.
If your eally want to dump the money, go to a hearing aid specialist or your ear, nose and throad doctor. They sell custom made plugs that have filters for different noise cancellation ratings. My friend is a tour manager for a promotions company and is at concerts a bunch. He paid for some of these becuase he was starting to get some hearing loss. You can have a conversation at an "inside" voice level while standing next to a speaker at a concert. In the four years since he purchased them he has had no more hearing loss at his annual test. They're well worth it if you have extra money laying around.
Jeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 588 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3558 times:
Thanks Pilotpip. Now you have me thinking. I did used to be a musician and was supposed to have been fitted for something like that while in the Marine Corps. Never did happen though. Maybe now would be a good time.
NORTHSEATIGER From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 432 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3508 times:
I personnally do not start the aircraft and run it, I will be performing engineering tasks i.e using vibration analasys test equipment whilst a pilot is at the controls, but having said that at some of my companies European bases licencsed engineers do start and run the aircraft with rotors engaged, they are trained by flight crew and have to visit the simulator annually to keep their ground running rating current. There is talk of engineers at my base being trained so I will be there at the front of que.
SkydrolBoy From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 341 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3425 times:
I have custom made ear plugs that I wear all the time, I got them made at Costco for $50. They have two different styles that you can get, ones that are solid and block out more noise or ones with a small hole in them designed so that you can hear voices. They are 10x easier to put in than foam ear plugs. In the winter I wear Peltor Ear Muffs over top of the plugs to help keep my ears warm when its really cold out.
Pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3082 posts, RR: 12 Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3378 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19): What about Disinfection of the Plugs.Any solution used
This is why I haven't purchased any custom plugs. I just use the foam cheapies under my muffs. On a busy day my hands end up nearly black with dirt and grime. Add a little jet fuel to this mix and I really don't think it's something I want to be cramming in my ear. On a busy day I'll go through two or three sets of plugs because they get dirty.
TimT From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 168 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3337 times:
I use the "christmas tree" style plugs on a solid band. Wear them around my neck and they're ready all the time. When I worked in the engine test cell I used those same plugs and muffs. After almost 20 years the only frequency loss I've noticed and the hearing tests confirm, the frequency is exactly the same as my wife's voice. One of the only "Fringe Benefits" in aviation.
Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
definately plugs. i use the rubber disposables since that's what the company provides. i used to use a pair of DCs, but they became a hassle last summer. now that i've moved up into managment i don't need to wear them at all times as i don't spend my entire day outside. the rubber disposables cane be bought from most mail-order stores and catalogs. try http://www.galls.com
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