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Airport Vs Airline Vs No Ramp Control  
User currently offlineRampoperator From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 9 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8109 times:

Once aircraft are out of the movement area, there are three modes of controlling aircraft. 1) Some airports (30 or so) operate their own ramp towers; 2) Some airports (30 or so) that are hubs for some airlines, have airline ramp controllers [There are examples of 1 and 2 in combination]; and 3) Some airports have no ramp control whatsoever and the only guidance given to aircraft for pushbacks is from the ATC tower. Does anyone have a list of 1) Which airports have airport-operated ramp towers, and 2) which airports have airline-operated ramp towers?

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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8075 times:

I believe in DFW, AA does the ramp controlling, they controll the aircraft from when it turns into the gate, give clearance to push, and hand over control to the airport run ground control once the aircraft has finished pushback. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it's done.

User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 601 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 8007 times:

At LAS the county DOA runs the ramp and there are two different frequencies. One for the west side and one for the east side. DIA has a ramp control for each concourse and I'm guessing they are operated by the airport.

User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7970 times:

PHL has both an airline ran Ramp Control operated by US Airways which is by A-West. And another tower that is operated by the airport down near the
F-Terminal.


User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7797 times:

here at LGA we have a combination. depending on what part of the ramp the a/c is parked on, they will first call our airline-operated ramp control but will get pushback instrucions from either ramp or ground control. 6 of our gate pushback onto an active taxiway so the need for ground is important. problems arise when wx delays or other such situations occur. we can incur 20-30 minute delays on pushes.

the other three ramp control towers are operated by AA, UA and DL. we (US) run the ramp around our terminal. each tower has control over what they can see, so if you are parking on a gate that cannot be seen from, say, the UA tower you may be handed over to the AA or even our tower for parking cleanrance. it all depends on what the towers can see. now... i need sleep.

[Edited 2005-06-12 07:41:38]


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User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7756 times:

At LAX, at least some of the airlines operate ramp controls. I know UA, DL and AA operate the ramp controls for the south side of the airport.

At JFK, JetBlue operates the ramp control for T6 while the airport operates the ramp for international T4. I took a tour of the T4 ramp tower and it's a mini-control tower!

I'd have to imagine that ATL uses airport ramp control but don't quote me on that.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7752 times:

CO has a little ramp tower in Terminal C or EWR. In this picture, you can see the small tower near the center of the picture, and the real tower over to the left.


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User currently offlineBernard Shakey From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 560 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7720 times:

Continental employees do ramp control in Cleveland, Houston (IAH), and Newark. In Cleveland, Continental Ramp Control controls gates B1 through B7, and the entire C and D Concourses. Airlines in this area include: Continental/Continental Express/Commutair, Northwest/Mesaba/Pinacle, United/United Express, and Air Canada Jazz.


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User currently offlineRydawg82 From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 864 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

More on LAX....For the alley between T3 and TBIT, AS works ramp tower control for this area....
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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7581 times:

In PHX HP operates ramp control for the T4 North concourses.

User currently offlineLorM From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 409 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7594 times:

At LAX I've always wondered, most ramp controls have at least a small tower to view the concourses, but each LAX concourse doesn't have one.

Where are the ramp control stations located at? Are they in the old tower or located in the new ATCT?



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