Pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3152 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4115 times:
In sum, no.
There are guys out there with 777 line experience and thousands of hours that are probably looking for a job. Typically, this is an industry where you start small and work your way up in terms of flying. In the US, pilots hired by most regional companies have about 1-2000 hours when hired on for the right seat of an RJ.
DALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2653 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3889 times:
A friend of my who is also a Brit got hired by Cathay and went to the 747 as a relief pilot and then to the 777. I think he had more than 1000 hrs when he was hire. In the US it would be doubtful this would happen. most new hires start in the smallest and least payed aircraft the airline flys. I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.
CX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6680 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3772 times:
Cadets from Asian airlines quite often graduate with a few hunder hours and then become cruise pilots on widebody aircraft simply because there are no narrow bodies for them to fly. Some of them even become first officers of widebodied aircraft after graduating. Some of these airlines are also considered the safest in the world.
Flykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3742 times:
I would think it highly unlikely that "the guy" would walk into an B777 F/O job with the time he currently has. Direct entry usually requires 1000+ hours of airline time. As mentioned previously, cadet schemes work differently, but I don't think "the guy" would be considered a cadet with a B777 rating.
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FlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7347 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3530 times:
Wow Getting a job outside of the US seems a lot easier. I sure the test and ratings and training is just as hard to do or even harder but less than 2,000TT and being a cruise pilot on a 777 or any wide body! That is amazing. How long will a cruise pilot stay as a cruise pilot until he upgrades to FO?
Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 5): I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.
that's also an awesome plane to fly for DL. One day you are doing MIA-ATL JAX-ATL and the next day you are flying ATL-EZE or CVG-LGW!
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N77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2443 times:
Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 11): Wow Getting a job outside of the US seems a lot easier. I sure the test and ratings and training is just as hard to do or even harder but less than 2,000TT and being a cruise pilot on a 777 or any wide body! That is amazing. How long will a cruise pilot stay as a cruise pilot until he upgrades to FO?
This has more to do with the 'seniority system' at US air carriers than the ability to fly a plane. Yes, experience is a key factor in safety, but how much safer is a 2000 tt than a 20 000 tt pilot?