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User currently offlineTarzanboy From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 132 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

hi

guys, do you think a guy with 300 total hours and a B777-300 Type Rating has potential for a B777 First Officer job?

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User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

here's a thread from exactly one month ago you mgiht be familiar with that covers it

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_ops/read.main/118191/6/



When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3152 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

In sum, no.

There are guys out there with 777 line experience and thousands of hours that are probably looking for a job. Typically, this is an industry where you start small and work your way up in terms of flying. In the US, pilots hired by most regional companies have about 1-2000 hours when hired on for the right seat of an RJ.



DMI
User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Wow you can even buy a triple 7 type rating without at least a thousand hours??? That can be dangerous!

[Edited 2005-06-16 01:46:19]

User currently offlineSoaringadi From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

I dont know about the U.S., but I had a friend of mine get hired at Eva air with 300 something hours as a Second officer on a 74. His logbook is the funniest part of the story.

It went something like....

250 hrs. C-152
78 hrs. - Be 76.... a Beechcraft Duchess
xx hrs. - Boeing 747

So the answer is yes it can happen.



If it ain't Boeing, I'm not going !
User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2614 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

A friend of my who is also a Brit got hired by Cathay and went to the 747 as a relief pilot and then to the 777. I think he had more than 1000 hrs when he was hire. In the US it would be doubtful this would happen. most new hires start in the smallest and least payed aircraft the airline flys. I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6641 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

Cadets from Asian airlines quite often graduate with a few hunder hours and then become cruise pilots on widebody aircraft simply because there are no narrow bodies for them to fly. Some of them even become first officers of widebodied aircraft after graduating. Some of these airlines are also considered the safest in the world.

User currently offlineFlykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 443 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

I would think it highly unlikely that "the guy" would walk into an B777 F/O job with the time he currently has. Direct entry usually requires 1000+ hours of airline time. As mentioned previously, cadet schemes work differently, but I don't think "the guy" would be considered a cadet with a B777 rating.


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User currently offlineTBA04 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

Where can you do a 777 type rating? are there any minimum requirements?

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6641 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

Dragonair has cadets graduate with 250 hours and go onto the Airbus....which I assume they then fly.

User currently offlineFlykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 443 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Cadets at KE must enter the cadet programme with a minimum number of hours (less than 100 I believe and no more than a PPL), otherwise they are not considered cadets.

Once a cadet has finished their training in the US, they return to Korea with 250 or so hours, head to Cheju for a citation rating, and then are assigned to train on either the B737, A300 or A330.

I would imagine it depends a lot on the country and airline so there will be large variances in requirements, etc.

Cheers.



One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time
User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7279 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

Wow Getting a job outside of the US seems a lot easier. I sure the test and ratings and training is just as hard to do or even harder but less than 2,000TT and being a cruise pilot on a 777 or any wide body! That is amazing. How long will a cruise pilot stay as a cruise pilot until he upgrades to FO?

Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 5):
I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.

that's also an awesome plane to fly for DL. One day you are doing MIA-ATL JAX-ATL and the next day you are flying ATL-EZE or CVG-LGW!  Smile



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineVS773ER From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 279 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Hat about 128 hours on x-plane?

User currently offlinePIA747 From Pakistan, joined Apr 2003, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

Try Etihad in Abu Dhabi, they are very actively recruiting 777 rated pilots. YOu stand a very good chance in the Sand Pit.

User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 5):
I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.

I've seen it with 4-5 yrs seniority. My dad has 6 in right now and will probably get it on this next bid. Doesn't take too much, at least for the right seat.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 11):
Wow Getting a job outside of the US seems a lot easier. I sure the test and ratings and training is just as hard to do or even harder but less than 2,000TT and being a cruise pilot on a 777 or any wide body! That is amazing. How long will a cruise pilot stay as a cruise pilot until he upgrades to FO?

This has more to do with the 'seniority system' at US air carriers than the ability to fly a plane. Yes, experience is a key factor in safety, but how much safer is a 2000 tt than a 20 000 tt pilot?


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