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Gg190 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

Which was the first jet or turboprop airliner to introduce the 2 man cockpit?

Also didn'y some props like the DC-3 and Vickers Viking have 2 man cockpits?

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VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

To my knowledge, some of the earliest would be the Vickers Viscount Model 724, which introduced a two man cockpit to that family, and the BAC-111, which I am pretty sure had a two man flight deck right from the get go (and was in the air before either the DC-9 or 737).

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JDD1 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 94 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

The Vickers Viscount had a two-crew cockpit. (The first civil turbo-prop)
The DC-9 was the twin-engined jet airliner to have a two-crew cockpit.
The A300-B4 FFCC was the first widebody jet airliner with a two-crew cockpit.
The 747-400 is also two-crew.

Patrickj From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Ford Tri Motor had a two man cockpit and flew before the DC-3.

Consolidated Commodore and the Sikorsky S-40 Flying Boats were two man as well

VC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3677 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

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Quoting JDD1 (Reply 2):
The DC-9 was the twin-engined jet airliner to have a two-crew cockpit.

I think the BAC One-Eleven beat the DC9 into the air.

Capt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

The correct terminology is two-crew cockpit - let's not be sexist ... There are women pilots, in case you guys haven't noticed Smile

JOD1 you got it right!

JDD1 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 94 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1040 times:

How could I possibly have forgotten the BAC1-11. I hang my head in shame.
VC-10 Thanks for the correction.
JDD

KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1005 times:

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 5):
The correct terminology is two-crew cockpit

Well if you really want to be technical, it would be "two-crewmember cockpit". There is only one crew. Wink

"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."

Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8298 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 976 times:

Oh give the politically correct crap a rest....2 man is perfectly fine, it obviously refers to man as homo sapien and not as a specific gender.

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...

57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 968 times:

Actually, some of the airplanes listed here (namely the Sikorsky and Douglas DC-3) may have had some three man configurations due to the need for nav/com radios. Remember in the early days the radios were not user friendly and not always set up for the Captain or First Officer to transmit as they are today. I believe the C-47 flew with a radio operator. On the DC-4, -6 and -7 radio duties fell to the FE.

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