TupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2222 posts, RR: 24 Posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Well, I remember that the Red Light is on the left hand side of the aircraft, and the green on the right when you're inside in normal seating positions, but how do you lot all remember port from starboard, or starboard from port?
Any ideas, like little rhymes or anything? I can never remember!
RedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4494 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The "P" in Port is alphabetically closer to the "L" in Left; the "S" in Starboard is alphabetically closer to the "R" in Right.
Of course, the best way to remember is to just use the terms "Port" and "Starboard" on a regular basis (in your head, if not in public) and then you won't need gimmicks to remember which side is which.
Jetlagged From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 2620 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting KBUF737 (Reply 8): But if you were a rower it became more confusing as I rowed port, but my oar was to the right, yet the viewpoint from the coxwain's vantage has port where it is supposed to be, on the left.
This is precisely why the terms port and starboard are less ambiguous than left and right. Port and starboard are directions relative to the ship/aircraft axis, not the observer. If you use left/right terminology you are more likely to confuse this with your own left and right sides. And it's not just a left/right confusion. A flight engineer would have to remember that starboard is in front and port is behind
Which ever way you are facing, port and starboard remain unchanged, relative to your vessel.
In the days when British aircraft manufacturers still made aircraft, we had port outer, port inner, starboard inner and starboard outer for engines 1,2,3 & 4. Much more picturesque (and meaningful unless you knew the left to right number convention). European aircraft still identify hydraulic systems by colour, rather than number.
Regarding remembering them, just use the terms regularly. Mnemonics can get confusing.
The glass isn't half empty, or half full, it's twice as big as it needs to be.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Jetlagged (Reply 15): If you use left/right terminology you are more likely to confuse this with your own left and right sides.
Very true and always a challenge for flight attendants. They are taught "aircraft standard practice" where left and right refer to "as viewed from the pilot station, facing forward" so the left wing is always the airplane's left wing, no matter which way YOU are facing. Now along comes a passenger to ask where their seat is. They have to reverse it - Seat A is always aircraft left but they have to tell the passenger walking aft that it is on their right.
Large aircraft systems controls and indicators are normally schematically correct and schematics are normally oriented with forward up and left-left. So that the gauge and switch for the left engine or system in on the left side of the panel etc. You can see this in several places on this 727 flight engineer panel. For example upper left are the controls for ##s 1,2 & generators which are left, center and right. Below that the fuel controls. There are other examples here as well.
Bhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The Vikings called the side of their ship its board, and they placed the steering oar, the "star" on the right side of the ship, thus that side became known as the "star board." It's been that way ever since. And, because the oar was in the right side, the ship was tied to the dock at the left side. This was known as the loading side or "larboard". Later, it was decided that "larboard" and "starboard" were too similar, especially when trying to be heard over the roar of a heavy sea, so the phrase became the "side at which you tied up to in port" or the "port" side. ...Soooo the way I remember it is: The "steering board" the rudder, back then, was on the RIGHT side...