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User currently offlineVSIVARIES From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 108 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

Hi guys (and gals),

Did my fist solo today in a P28 warrior.

I know this is nothing special in the terms of global A-net, loads of people have PPL’s but I believe in the UK it is far less than 1% of population who are qualified to fly.

Many thanks to http://www.bournemouthflyingclub.co.uk/ and my instructor G**G.

He is 1st a class guy (only 24 – I am 30) and he is off soon to fly 737’s for a lo-cost airline.

Took me 31 hours but as it is a hobby and not a commercial thing there has been no rush as far as I or the flight school are concerned.

Anyone out there that wants any help in the weeks leading up to a solo ( which can be a bit nerve-wrecking with Air law exams, JAA medical and instructor giving you grief!) let me know I will be happy to help if I can.

Now I’m safely on the ground I will have several dinks to celebrate!!!!

A strange thought occurred to whilst climbing at 500ft on the circuit, entering the RH turn (RH circuit) ‘I know my instructor must have asked me about 10 times ‘are you ready?’ and I have answered ‘yes’. Good job I am ready ‘cause now it’s too late!!!!!

Sounds a bit daft but put a smile on my face at the time!!.

B/R
Richard


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User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6611 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Congratulations!!! Every pilot remembers their very first solo flight with fond (hopefully!) memories. You have chosen the best hobby in the world, and all the best for happy flights in future!!

User currently offlineIanatSTN From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Hey Richard!

Congratulations on your first solo, I can only imagine how pleased you are feeling right now!

I am 15 now with 3.5 hours already logged, I hope to take my PPL during the next summer holidays (I will be 17 at the end of them). My question to you would be how was the medical? And what did it involve?

Congrats again,
Ian.



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User currently offlineSidewinder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Quoting VSIVARIES (Thread starter):
Did my fist solo today in a P28 warrior

Awesome! I remember mine well. Did they clip your shirt tail?


User currently offlineVSIVARIES From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 108 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Hi IanatSTN,
Medical was fine looking back - no probs. But at the time it's all a bit new and you cannot help but feeling a bit 'apprehensive'. You have a pretty thorough once over physically, blood, urine, height/weight, blood pressure & electrocardiogram.
Trying to purposely relax while blood pressure & electrocardiogram are taken is the hardest bit as is if you don’t the doc’s can’t take the reading.
Other than that, no that hard. One last thing. I wear glasses (am very short sighted) and the eye tests are quite demanding. Make sure you have an up to date eye prescription with you and are wearing your up to date specs. If you have a diopher difference of more than three between both eyes you will never be allowed to fly.
All in all, just try and relax as best you can, for a fit and healthy person it’s no big deal. If you enjoy a few beers, take it easy for a few days before.

Hi Sidewinder,
I believe the shirt thing is mostly for the military guys, all I got was a lot of handshakes and ‘well done’s’ and congratulations from Bournemouth Tower. (they held up a 737 to give me no.1). Excellent Class D airport for commercial and students alike. < http://www.flybournemouth.com/>

CX flyboy
Thanks – next time I am in HK I will have to meet you for a drink. Felix sound OK?
My hangout is Marco polo HK hotel! (normally in your city every 2 months). Like to know what the situation is in HK as regards GA.

Thanks guys!
Richard



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Quoting VSIVARIES (Thread starter):
nothing special in the terms of global A-net,

à contraire, mon frère it IS a special thing. A really cool thing. Congratulations.

"Pilot in Command" even if only by default.

What I remember best was that the plane (C-150) climbed better and that making right turns, I could see better. My instructor didn't ask if I was ready, he said: "I'm getting out before you kill me!" then after I landed he looked up under the plane for damage, but whatever works.



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User currently onlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

Quoting VSIVARIES (Reply 4):
Hi Sidewinder,
I believe the shirt thing is mostly for the military guys, all I got was a lot of handshakes and ‘well done’s’ and congratulations from Bournemouth Tower. (they held up a 737 to give me no.1). Excellent Class D airport for commercial and students alike. < http://www.flybournemouth.com/>

Not quite, it may be an 'American' thing though. I got my PPL in 2001 at DAB and my instructor cut my shirt, took it home, signed it with a drawing, a few humorous words, and the airport, runway and date and gave it back to me. Its a ritual over here among all civil pilots I know of.

But, more importantly, CONGRADULATIONS!!! Great job and it is one of the most satisfying moments is it not?



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Congrats my man....this'll be a memory you'll tell your kids and grandkids, over and over. Do they have any ceremonial tradition over there, like the cutting of a shirt or tie? Or just drinks afterwards? Big grin

First thing I noticed on my first solo- the cockpit was strangely quiet..oh wait, noone screaming at me from the other seat  Wink Plus you've just cut your crew weight by half, so you tend to fly better and land longer if you're used to doing the same old approaches w/ instructor's dead weight...is a nice feeling none the less! Big grin

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineVSIVARIES From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 108 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1544 times:

Hey Slamclick,
Thanks for your words of wisdom (as always). Don’t take this the wrong way but in my eyes you are the no.1 contributor to this forum – previously B747Skipper. My hat goes off to you always. I am only a GA pilot but the kind of advice you guys give isn’t given in any book (unless you buy a library). How’s your boy getting on?

HaveBlue and DeltaGuy
Thanks for your kind words. Yes the plane was noticeably lighter but the main thing I remember (bearing in mind my instructor has a large ‘frame’). i.e. he is not a fat git but is very tall and wide (about 6’2”). Is that I was actually allowed to reach the trim control without pushing him out the way!

Once again thanks guys.
Next challenge is to get the wife interested – any ideas?

Richard.



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

a good way to get her involved is to say theres a new look or topshop at your cruising level and she'll be in the plane like a shot and she wont want to get out


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently onlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Richard,

What I would do would be to take up some friends first, and if they have a good experience have them relate that to her... it will boost her confidence in your skills if people she knows and trusts say how benign and serene the flight was.

Also, tell her that the first time she goes up you are just going to do one pattern around the feild, and if she's not comfortable she can get out. If she likes it, then you can continue on. The fact that she knows she will only be 'trapped' in that thin aliminum for 6 minutes or so may be the comfort she needs. If she's never ridden in a small plane before, committing to an hour long flight when she may have reservations can be a deal ruiner. Let her know its only a few minutes that she has to be up, and the decision is hers to continue. That lays some much needed control in her lap. The #1 reason I hear people say they don't want to fly in small planes is that they like being in control.

You can give her a cursory knowledge of the plane and flight as well. Let her 'chair fly' a bit and tell her she can man the yoke during cruise if she likes. And, if you can, rent a newer plane, like an SP if your fly 172's. I have no qualms flying old planes, but that 'new' look may rest her fears.

Tell her you'll take her on a small shopping spree as a reward for her trust in your flying skills and her going with you to share the experience.

Good luck!



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User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting VSIVARIES (Thread starter):
A strange thought occurred to whilst climbing at 500ft on the circuit, entering the RH turn (RH circuit) ‘I know my instructor must have asked me about 10 times ‘are you ready?’ and I have answered ‘yes’. Good job I am ready ‘cause now it’s too late!!!!!

A strange thought occured to me on my first solo as well..... "OK you got it off the runway... Now can you get it back on?". Probably a good thing I didn't have time to dwell on it...  Smile

Congrats and welcome to the club!!!


User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Congrats! Happy flying!!  bigthumbsup 

over here in the states, I have to be 16 to solo  banghead ...so only one more year from sept. 7!!!  biggrin 



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User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2806 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Congrats! Regardless of whether you're just learning how to fly or captain of a heavy, the first solo is always a big deal. Have fun, enjoy it and be proud that you returned to mother Earth in one piece!

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6611 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

Hi Richard,

Great to know that you are a frequent Hong kong visitor! Do you do to Felix often? My wallet can't stretch that far! haha.
GA in HKG is unfortunately very poor. When Kai Tak closed, the flying club moved it operations to Sek Kong, the former base of the RAF. Now, it is the PLAAF airbase, and the GA stuff is only alowed to fly on weekends, and then only if there is no military exercise planned. Bad weather on some weekends effectively reduces the number of flying days available per year dramatically. It is also very expensive and considered an exclusive hobby. I have never done it, although I have considered instructing there on a part time basis.
Helicopters are a different story, and with the ability to avoid Sek Kong, it is becomming popular with rich people who can park them in their gardens, or next to the old Aviation club clubhouse at Kai Tak, which still operates. However this is also very expensive!! Better save your pennies for Felix!!


User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Richard,

Well done, next time you go by FRA wave out of the window and I'll wave back.

Not wishing to burst your bubble at all, especially as I don't know how often you fly, but isn't 31 hours a long time? Please don't think I'm being critical of you because I'm thinking of how long it will take you to get your PPL and how much that will cost you.
I don't know what the average to solo is and maybe 31 hours is okay but I would have thought it was significantly less than that. The point I am trying to make is that that maybe a more concentrated approach is needed where you do lots of flying in a short time. It sounds to me that you are spending a lot of your lesson recapping the previous lesson and therefore do not advance much. If you fly lots in a short time you progress quicker because you don't have to recap.
Synically, its in the best interest of the flying school to keep you going as long as they can, though you seem quite happy with them. Maybe you need a new approach. If you are happy doing it the way you are thats fine, I'm just trying to give you some constructive advice (not always easy when you are writing and I appologise if it comes across as critisism). You are obviously chuffed at going solo. Think how you are going to feel when you get your PPL  Smile I just wanted to get you there quicker.


User currently onlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

Saintsman has a point. I got my PPL at 30 but had went to the flight schools and talked to them about it years earlier. Being as I didn't have a lot of money up front, I was going to try to do it just going a couple of lessons a month. Fortunately, the flight school, against their own financial self interest, said that would not be the best route. The beginning learning curve is high, and they said it would be much better to have a good portion of the money up front, and fly often so that it is retained and you progress instead of redressing what you've already learned. So when I finally had that together, I went and plunked 1/2 the money down, buying block time (cheaper per hour) and flew every day, weather permitting, sometimes twice a day, and ground school 4 days a week as I was part 141. I solo'ed around 17 hours and got my PPL at around 52 hours. The hours thing isn't a dick swinging contest, its irrelevant, but the reason Saintsman stated what he did and why I am backing him up is that it does make a huge difference. If money is no object and you couldn't care less, then by all means do what you're doing and more power to you. But don't be fooled, just because you're not on an agenda (I wasn't, I'm a PPL for a hobby and love it) doesn't mean that drawing it out that protracted is the best way. I'd say at least 2 or 3 lessons a week is minimum for truly progressing at a reasonable rate. Of course you can fly once every 2 months and eventually get there, but it is an enormously more expensive proposition.

The choice is yours of course, we are just offering advice for the right reasons. Either way, outstanding that you solo'ed and no matter what, keep on keeping on with it!

[Edited 2005-08-01 09:34:47]


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