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Hardest Part Of Pilot Progression  
User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8939 times:

From private pilot all the way up to captain what are the most difficult stages where the most study and hard work are required?
For example would f/0's become captains simply based on experience or is there more training and tests.

[Edited 2005-08-15 14:08:13]

your pilots today on this 747 flight are captain oliver hardy and assisting will be FO stan laurel.Have a safe flight
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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8957 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8913 times:

Without question, the hardest part of (civilian) pilot progression is paying for it.



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8902 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 1):
Without question, the hardest part of (civilian) pilot progression is paying for it.

Lucky me! I just had to let people shoot at me and the Government paid for it.

I was going to say that the hardest part was getting hired by your final destination airline.

It is a process rather like being an Olympic hopeful diver. You train and practice and train and practice for years. Then you get your one shot: You climb up on the board or platform and you leap and whatever happens in the next second determines whether you are an Olypmic hero or a footnote in some book of statistics.

Speaking for the USA, the airlines will have hundreds of applicants for a dozen new-hire pilot positions. Everybody in the group has a degree, some from good schools, some from not-so-good schools. Every applicant will have three or four times the published minimum experience. Every one will have read the same reference materials on interviewing with this particular airline. Most will have family or friend there vouching for them. They will all look good and smell good and have their interview answers all prepped.

So you get your turn on the lonesome side of the long mahogany table and then you go home to wait.

That to me is the difficult part.

The flying? Mostly that was fun. Personally I thought that getting the instrument rating was the most demanding single evolution on my way to where I sit today. It was new knowledges and new skills all coming at you at a good rate, and the standards are high.

Your first airline ground school might seem like a big load to you, but that might just be unfamiliarity and self-imposed stress. "I really NEED this job!" After a while ground schools and checkrides are just part of the wallpaper.

Oh yeah. Like 2H4 says, there is paying for it all.

Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineMrChips From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8784 times:

I would say that the hardest part of the civilian pilot progression is going from "pilot, low-time, unemployed" to "pilot, low-time, gainfully employed".

Let's face it, you and all your classmates/flying friends are fighting over the same small number of jobs that are available to a mewly-minted commercial pilot (at least, here in Canada - we don't have huge regionals here who hire pilots just to fill a seat). You all have roughly the same number of hours (not enough) and the same number of qualifications.

Some companies get so many resumes from new pilots (literally hundreds per week) that they have a special filing cabinet for them all - the garbage can. Fortunately for me, I got lucky (mind you, it sure helps to be in the right place at the right time).

When you're looking for that first job, be prepared to have the door slammed in your face a lot...not many people are willing to talk to you. Don't get discouraged, and just keep on plugging.

Time...to un-pimp...ze auto!
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