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747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1252 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

Hey, I know that the 747-400`s have the "older" CRT display`s.
I also know that the 400ER´s have the "newer" LCD display`s,
so my question is are any airlines upgrading their CRT displays in the 747 to LCD`s ?

Cheers leo Smile

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PhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

Not quite. I am in DXB right now and I flew a 744F, 9V-SFO, it's our newest 744F and it has the LCD displays. IIRC all 400's from about 18 months ago have the LCD displays. There is a PIP to upgrade the CRTs to LCD.

Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1252 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4641 times:

oh ok cool. do you know what airlines are planning this upgrade?##

Cheers Leo

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PhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Couldn't even begin to guess. It's really up to the individual airlines. I know SQ is in the process of looking at the upgrade for the freighter and perhaps the pax fleet if it's cost effective.

Matt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4627 times:

Phil

slightly off topic i know, was just wondering when your a pilot for an ailrine who operates the pax and frieghter version of an aircraft such as SQ and their 400's, do you fly Pax and cargo ops? do you stick to one or the other??

Thanks
Matt

PhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

It depends. We have SIA, you fly both Pax and Cargo, then we have SIA Cargo where you fly just cargo.

HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 5):
It depends. We have SIA, you fly both Pax and Cargo, then we have SIA Cargo where you fly just cargo.

Given the choice.Which is preffered.

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 3):
I know SQ is in the process of looking at the upgrade for the freighter and perhaps the pax fleet if it's cost effective

Any Approx Number of the cost of conversion.

regds
MEL

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Matt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

so which do you do Phil??
would the salary vary?

PhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

I fly both. Salary is about the same, although the Cargo operation was recently started and their overall package is a little lower.

If pay were the same, I'd take cargo anytime!

HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 8):
If pay were the same, I'd take cargo anytime!

I thought so too. Smile

regds
MEL

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KensukeAida From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

LCDs cost more but they run cooler, weigh less, and consume less power.

I think that it's one of those long-term vs. short-term issues where if you plan on keeping the AC around for awhile it saves to use LCDs over CRTs.

- John

HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

Quoting KensukeAida (Reply 10):
LCDs cost more but they run cooler, weigh less, and consume less power

Also clarity from all Angles.
regds
MEL

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AJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2376 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4435 times:

Qantas is retrofitting all the 747-400s with LCD screens.

RedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
Also clarity from all Angles.

Aren't CRTs much better in this respect than LCDs (at least in terms of domestic units) - or was that what you meant, Mel?

Andrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 457 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4189 times:

Cathay Pacific converted a 747-400F from CRT to LCD for trial purposes sometime ago but since then she had been reverted back to CRT.

HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 13):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
Also clarity from all Angles.

Aren't CRTs much better in this respect than LCDs (at least in terms of domestic units) - or was that what you meant, Mel

Exactly.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_ops/read.main/101174/4/

regds
MEL

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NZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2188 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

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NZ toyed with the idea I believe, but the aircraft are only gonna be here for another 5 or so years.

NZ1

CCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 708 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 14):
Cathay Pacific converted a 747-400F from CRT to LCD for trial purposes sometime ago but since then she had been reverted back to CRT.

I find it doubtful that CX would do something like this, I know B-HUQ arrived this year from Boeing with LCDs, they didn't change this to CRT for fleet commonality did they?

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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 14):
Cathay Pacific converted a 747-400F from CRT to LCD for trial purposes sometime ago but since then she had been reverted back to CRT

What was the reason.
regds
MEL

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Matt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

VS have converted theirs!

Andrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 457 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

The reason was to test the usage of LCD on 747-400. That was before the newest B744F joined the fleet. Thereafter she was converted back to CRT after the trial duration ended.

B-HUQ still feature LCD displays and it's kept unchanged.

HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 20):
The reason was to test the usage of LCD on 747-400. That was before the newest B744F joined the fleet. Thereafter she was converted back to CRT after the trial duration ended.

Why did they not opt to keep the LCD screens.
regds
MEL

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Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1252 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3113 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 21):
Why did they not opt to keep the LCD screens.

Probably because out of the 6 400F`s CX have and only B-HUQ has been delivered with LCD´S it is cheaper to have 1 LCD plane and 5 CRT`S compared to 4 CRT`S and 2 LCD`S.

Please Correct me if im wrong Smile

Cheers Leo

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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 22):
Probably because out of the 6 400F`s CX have and only B-HUQ has been delivered with LCD´S it is cheaper to have 1 LCD plane and 5 CRT`S compared to 4 CRT`S and 2 LCD`S.

I could understand if it was commonolity in spares.Then all would be CRT equipped.But considering the Benefits of LCD would'nt a gradual change to LCD be a good decision.
regds
MEL

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AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 8):
If pay were the same, I'd take cargo anytime!

Why is that Phil?

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 16):
NZ toyed with the idea I believe, but the aircraft are only gonna be here for another 5 or so years.

Really? What aircraft will replace the 744s? Or do we not know yet? I was under the impression that the 772s were going to be replaicng the 763 for the most part.

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25 NZ1: I am not allowed to tell yet. An announcement will be forthcoming in the not too distant future. NZ1

26 SunriseValley: NZ1. Two or three months ago I thoght you indicated that the present -400's would be in the fleet well past 2010. Did I misunderstand or has there be

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