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Pilots-What's The Fastest You've Flown Below 10K?  
User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6448 times:
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Pilots...I'm thinking along the lines of ATC requests, military ops, international ops, and special cases. What's the fastest (indicated) you've flown below 10,000 feet?

Feel free to describe cases involving "someone you know".  Wink

Sadly, my maximum is around 190 knots.




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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2389 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6405 times:

330 knots in the 'old' days. Then again I was never in the air force!

User currently offlineJush From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6404 times:

Well sometimes i know airplanes a cleared high speed below 10K so they don't fly the indicated of 250. I think then they fly around 280 up to 300.
But i might be wrong here.

Regards
jush

PS: As to answer the question. I never flown anything myself so it's just airliner experience it you wanna call it like that.



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User currently offlineSchooner From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6393 times:

325kts? Has to be slower than 313kts below 8000` for protection against frozen chickens in the 757 at least!

Cheers.



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User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6387 times:

365 KIAS, Lockheed TriStar....just yesterday.
Approaching OEJN, high speeed requested by ATC.
Happy to oblige.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6388 times:

In the military, about 590KIAS at about 200'. It's pretty common to do a descent in other countries and exceed 250K below 10000. Our company SOP is 250 below 5000'.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6369 times:

Quoting Schooner (Reply 3):

325kts? Has to be slower than 313kts below 8000` for protection against frozen chickens in the 757 at least!

Elobrate Pls.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6314 times:

Barber pole minus one knot.

As has been said there are many places in the world where this can be done. At one time it was believed (incorrectly, it turns out) that the arrivals from over Catalina Island to KSNA you could maintain barber pole until three miles from the shoreline. At least one airline routinely did so - motoring through a training area infested with Cessnas at 320-330 Knots.

I have a cool piece of video of a friend doing three low-level passes in a DC-9. It was all coordinated with the FAA and all the squares were filled. The first pass was at 180K and was not good for our purposes. It was nose-high and looked a little scary. Second pass was at 250 and looked pretty good. Third pass was at 345 where redline was 348. Sounded like a military jet, and he had to push to keep it in ground effect. That is a really choice piece of video and made for some good still photos, which was the objective.

If I had taken the stills that day I would post them on here. The guy who did is a regular browser here but not a member. I cannot talk him into posting the pics.



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6849 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6295 times:

330KIAS on 732 today on a rediffusion 732 Sim LOL... that doesn't count does it? :P

330 KIAS on a 732 while jumpseating is a regular occurence...

Mandala499



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User currently offline752is From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6225 times:

350 knots jumpseating on a 757 autothrottle had disconnected having some sort of problem with the REEC just after takeoff from JFK at about 3000ft.....we were told very loudly to slow down

User currently offlineSchooner From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6213 times:

MEL, below 313kts below 8000ft the windows are designed to withstand an impact from a bird. Above that their integrity is not assured but we are apparently ok because birds dont fly any higher than that (says the man from Boeing!!  ).

Quoting 752is (Reply 9):
350 knots jumpseating on a 757 autothrottle had disconnected having some sort of problem with the REEC just after takeoff from JFK at about 3000ft.....we were told very loudly to slow down

Christ, thats up against the barbers pole at that low altitude!

Cheers.

[Edited 2005-10-27 20:18:49]


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User currently offlineNgr From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6207 times:

Over the summer, I was given the opportunity to fly in a T-38. We went in a MOA to practice bombing runs, and we did 400 knots IAS going between 2000 and 6000 feet.

User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1038 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6193 times:

ATC said best forward speed until further notice. So we flew barber pole - all the way to 2 mile final, when the tower told us we were going a little too fast.


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5881 times:

Anyone remember about 10 months back when Houston TRACON had the ability to allow departures to climb at whatever their flight plan sleep was...term used "no speed limit"? We'd see B752's, B762/4's go up to 350 KIAS and wow would they ever have a great vertical speed as well....there were some B727's with the high dash number engines that AA had would be up in the 390 KIAS (or so they said)!  Smile Most B73NG's climb around 320-330 KIAS and MD8X's, 335 KIAS. Great ATC tool that was taken away from us and want it back!


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

Guess I need more rest.....first sentence should have been "flight plan speed"....whoops


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Quoting Woodreau (Reply 12):
ATC said best forward speed until further notice. So we flew barber pole - all the way to 2 mile final, when the tower told us we were going a little too fast.

Are you serious.
About Exceeding the Barber poles.
When was this event.What type Aircraft.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

Quoting Schooner (Reply 10):
we are apparently ok because birds dont fly any higher than that

LOL ! Birds fly way higher. Geese cross the Himalayas for example.

/JM



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User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5723 times:

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 16):

Also swans have been known to cruise at FL220(22,000 feet) and in the 1970's the highest recorded aircraft impact with a bird (a griffen vulture) occured at 28,000 feet in east africa both the aircraft and bird had to make a emegency landing.No such thing as TCAS in those days for the aircraft and bird to put it's squawk into.
So next time you see a swan rotate dont grab it's legs without oxygen.



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User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5612 times:

170 Kias.PA-38 Tomahawk II, LV-ANJ.

Not impresive, but oh well, is better than nothing.

mike



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User currently offlineCaptainStorck From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5406 times:

I got 135 today in a C-172/R!!! (if it is any consolation, the groundspeed hit 183)

User currently offlineB747FE From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2004, 230 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5332 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Thread starter):
What's the fastest (indicated) you've flown below 10,000 feet?

Around 330 knots in a B741.

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 18):
170 Kias.PA-38 Tomahawk II, LV-ANJ.

Perhaps a little typo in your post?

Regards,
B747FE.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5325 times:
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Quoting Woodreau (Reply 12):
So we flew barber pole - all the way to 2 mile final, when the tower told us we were going a little too fast.



What were you flying...and was it difficult to get slowed down in time?




2H4





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User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5321 times:

500 KIAS @ 200ft in the Nevada Desert. Have also done M1.0+ at 9K or so over the ocean (don't remember how fast, just looked at the Mach after pulling out of a dive and saw above 1.0 and said Oh S..T, better slow down).

[Edited 2005-11-02 04:13:46]

User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1038 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5288 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 21):

What were you flying...and was it difficult to get slowed down in time?
2H4

I was flying a turboprop and barberpole for the aircraft is 248kts indicated. Keeping best forward speed is a typical request during the evening crush. Normally the instructions are, "Cleared for the ILS 18R approach, best forward speed (or whatever assigned speed) until the outer marker" which is about a 5 mile final. We intercept the localizer, and intercept the glideslope and ride the glideslope down at barberpole until the outer marker. If they give us an assigned speed, like 180kts, we fly 180kts, the assigned speed.

It was just that particular day, ATC told us "best forward speed until told otherwise." I think the approach controller forgot when he told us to switch to tower. Tower didn't mention anything to us other than to tell a following jet, "Runway 18R cleared to land #2 behind a 'hot' turboprop." I don't think it was that close to 2 mile final when we slowed, but it was inside the outer marker, so we decided that ATC probably didn't need us to keep the speed up any more somewhere between 3 and 4 mile final, we slowed the aircraft from 245-248kts to Vapp (140kts).

You reduce the power and decrease the rate of descent from 1500-1800ft/min to 700-800ft/min as the aircraft slows to stay on the glideslope. As the speed bleeds off, configure for landing, approach flaps, gear down, landing flaps.

The speed comes off very quickly and smoothly all while descending on the glideslope, probably takes a mile/mile and a half to slow from Vmo to Vapp. It's easily doable in a turboprop, but I would not do this in a CRJ-200 or any other jet.

[Edited 2005-11-02 06:03:00]


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User currently offlineJarheadK5 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5061 times:

205 KIAS at about 200' MSL, in a CH-53E helicopter...

About 180 KIAS at 20' AGL once, too.



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25 Cancidas : M1.0 at 100 AGL, KEDW.[Edited 2005-11-03 23:33:41]
26 Schooner : Oh I feel terribly mis-quoted here today!
27 Post contains images Jan Mogren : No harm meant, we see what the Boeing guy said /JM
28 HaveBlue : Please elaborate.
29 Post contains images Schooner : Ta! Was going to have a sulk then Cheers.
30 HAWK21M : Is that a Typo. regds MEL
31 Cancidas : no, it's not a typo .
32 Jetstar : 350 knots in a Lockheed JetStar, right on the barber pole at 2500 feet flying VFR on severe clear days over the Long Island Sound on positioning fligh
33 Aloges : KEDW = Edwards AFB
34 Bellerophon : Shortly after take-off we would be at 400 kts IAS, whilst climbing at 4,000 fpm, on most departures from JFK and LHR. We used to keep the speed relati
35 MD-90 : Must've been on helluva tailwind.
36 2H4 : C'mon, Cancidas, don't leave us hanging like this...what were you flying? 2H4
37 Post contains links and images Cancidas : don't you just love the suspense? View Large View MediumPhoto © Michael Baldock[Edited 2006-01-25 01:10:12][Edited 2006-01-25 01:22:10]
38 747LUVR : I recall the turkey vulture strike was near 37k feet, not 28k feet......
39 Post contains images Nonfirm : 310 ias into sea on an MD-80.i was in the jumpseat and we were told speed was unrestricted to the airport.the other was 115 in my mustang over the bri
40 Post contains images Myt332 : Rub it in some more please!
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