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Dash-8 Pilots - Landing Without A Main Gear  
User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

Hi,

This question is mostly aimed at Dash-8 pilots. What's the procedure for landing without a main gear? Looking at the design of the aircraft, having one of the main gears fail to deploy, I'd imagine the aircraft will be quite off balance. Would you opt to have the other main gear down, or retracted?



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If I'd have to guess, I'd say you'd leave the good gear down, touch down on that one to absorb the shock. However, wouldn't it be very hard to control the plane after lift is gone? If you recall, there was an incident of a USAir 737 that had to land with a main gear up...

Thanks for your answers,

Vio


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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

im not a pilot but most aircraft would be off balance with only 2 gear so what id imagine they'd do is if the right gear failed to deploy they'd shut down the right engine a couple of mins before landing so the prop doesn't keep hitting the ground
if they landed on the belly it would be a simpler landing also



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3419 times:

I really can't think of a situation were you would need to do that. The landing gear have a free fall design built in, so even without hyd. power you can still get the gear down.


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User currently onlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3417 times:
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Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
I really can't think of a situation were you would need to do that. The landing gear have a free fall design built in, so even without hyd. power you can still get the gear down.

There were a few instances where even the gravity drop wouldn't extend the gear properly. One such occurrence was some years a go (in the 70s I think), on a Fairchild FH.227 (a lengthened Fokker F-27) where the nose gear failed to extend despite having the same gravity drop system as the main gear. The pilot was forced to make a two-wheel landing with some nose scraping.



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User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 791 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3395 times:

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 3):
There were a few instances where even the gravity drop wouldn't extend the gear properly. One such occurrence was some years a go (in the 70s I think), on a Fairchild FH.227 (a lengthened Fokker F-27) where the nose gear failed to extend despite having the same gravity drop system as the main gear. The pilot was forced to make a two-wheel landing with some nose scraping.

A simular incident happened to a Tobago Express Dash 8 in Trinidad earlier this year. The nosegear failed to extend and the manual release didnt help. So, they had to land without it. I'm not sure if the aircraft is back in the friendly skies as yet.



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