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28 VDC Ground Power & Soft Start  
User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

We have some 28.5 VDC ground power units where I work, & as well as ground power they have a soft start feature. When set to soft start the pilot initiates the starting procedure, & the output from the power unit starts at low voltage & ramps up to 28.5 volts. The idea is to reduce shock on aircraft electrical & mechanical components.
My understanding is that only some aircraft make use of this (I was told the T-33 is one of them). Does anyone know what other aircraft can make use of soft start?


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User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

The T Bag was the last of the soft starts in our inventory, the reason was the starter quill shaft could shear on a "hard" start (too much torque)

WrenchBender



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User currently offlineAirgypsy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

The BAe-146 (RJ-85, etc...) has soft start to prevent the starter from breaking the starter pad off the gearbox (which they did). When I first worked on them, starting an engine sounded like a car crash immediately followed by a very fast crank up. Soft start saved the engines and the starters. The aircraft does the "soft start" voltage control. I think it's a stepped 6/12/28. The low voltage allows the geartrain to takeup slack like a freight train does. This prevents the crashing the gears event and then controls the torque application as voltage steps up. (It was a LONG time ago for me.)
Airgypsy


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4204 times:

Quoting MissedApproach (Thread starter):
We have some 28.5 VDC ground power units where I work

Why 28.5vdc,not 28vdc.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4187 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Why 28.5vdc,not 28vdc.

The quiescent charge of a lead acid "24volt" battery is 25.2-25.4 volts.
Normal charging using alternator/ground power/cart is 26.4 to 28.8 volts.


Okie


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

Quoting Okie (Reply 4):
The quiescent charge of a lead acid "24volt" battery is 25.2-25.4 volts.
Normal charging using alternator/ground power/cart is 26.4 to 28.8 volts.

Agreed.But why the Decimal.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

We used soft start on the Garrett powered airplanes as well, the Miti's, the King Air B100's and Turbo Commanders.

User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
Agreed.But why the Decimal.

I can only assume that the manufacturer of the equipment has the exact output of the ground power unit listed.
The closer the output of the charger to the maximum amount of voltage the battery can safely accept the faster the charge, this also has the effect of letting the battery float in the system while the ground power unit supplies most of the current for starting.
A fully charged 24 volt lead acid battery will show close to the "impressed voltage", for lack of a better term, immediately after charging and will slowly drop back to the quiescent voltage over time or if a load is placed on the battery.



Okie


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