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Best Power To Weight Ratio?  
User currently offlineSpringbok139 From South Africa, joined Sep 2005, 25 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 14071 times:

I flew on a 737-400 this morning and I noticed how quickly the aircraft accelerated and it got me thinking.What passenger aircraft has the best power(thrust) to weight ratio?In other words if we had to line them up on a huge drag strip what aircraft would accelerate the fastest with similar loads over a given distance?I have a feeling the 747 SP would be right up there but I'm not sure...any ideas?

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User currently offlineKaneporta1 From Greece, joined May 2005, 787 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 14081 times:

I'm sure that nothing would beat an empty 777LR. Not even a 757.

I'd rather die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not terrified and screaming, like his passengers
User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14031 times:

The daily UA 744's to MEL from SYD are said to have VERY short take-off runs.
I'm not sure about pax planes but some G-V's have big engines. 29 360lbs of thrust on a 30m (98 feet) plane seems like alot to me.


User currently offlineOryx From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13976 times:

In another thread (757 Take Off Roll Less Than Smaller Planes) B2707SST published a graph with the following data:

Concorde: 0.375
752: 0.341
712: 0.339
A32X, 737NG, A306, 762: 0.31 - 0.335
A342, A343: 0.22
A388: 0.25

All other 0.265-0.31.

In the group of A32X, A318 should be on top.

User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2793 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13943 times:

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 1):
I'm sure that nothing would beat an empty 777LR. Not even a 757.

MD-11  Wink

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4531 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13907 times:

I think that the correct answer to this is:

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I believe that Korean Air 773s have the highest power to weight ratios, because they are equipped with the PW4098.

Korean Air was the only airline to order the PW4098 due to the mishap that PW had with the engine and as a result, they are the only airline to operate the engine. I think that they've even got better power to weight ratios than the 772LR or the 77W.

User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1142 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13876 times:

(1) B752
(2) MD-87
(3) B712

That simple...


A300/18/19/20/21 B721/2 B732/3/G/8 B741/2/4 B752 B762/3/4 B772/3 DC8/9/10 MD11 TU134/154 IL62/86 An24 SA340/2000 E45/90
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13822 times:

With someone mentioning the G-V, I'm sure others like the LJ45 and Citation X would totally beat the aforementioned airliners as well.

User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13753 times:

I read somewhere that the CRJ-700 competes well in this category; comparable to a 757.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 4396 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 13714 times:

No airliners, but Eurofighter and F-22 raptor are certainly among the best airplanes in terms of thrust to weight ratio altogether.

On www.flightlevel350.com there is a cool video taken on a Varig MD11 flying from CDG to AMS. If I counted correctly, it took around 18seconds to take off. Try to watch it, it is really cool. I can confirm that empty Cargo MD11s taking off from CGN are real rockets...

EDIT: Check the link: http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=4498

[Edited 2005-11-29 19:15:08]

User currently offline2enginesonly From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13662 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 9):
I can confirm that empty Cargo MD11s taking off from CGN are real rockets...

I agree with TheSonntag: 11 minutes from standstill to 36,000' with an empty cargo MD11 leaving Khartoum.  bigthumbsup 
I've also seen them climbing with 4200'/min with a full paxload......rockets indeed.


User currently offlineEilennaei From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 13647 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 9):
there is a cool video taken on a Varig MD11 flying from CDG to AMS.

The plane in the video, PP-VQI, is now OH-LGG, due to emerge from the AY maintenance hangar in late Dec.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31821 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 13570 times:

I feel a B777 Empty.Although out here a few light AI B744s come close  Smile

Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13484 times:

Saturn V means never having to go to the performance charts.

Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
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