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What Do You Carry With You In Cockpit?  
User currently offlineSabenaA340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Dear forum,

What kind of paperwork is there usually in the cockpit of an airliner? Checklists, approach plates, flight plans, OK. What else? For what airports do you have the approach plates on board? Only for the ones on route? I imagine you can't bring all airport approach plates in the world... Also, are you using maps with visual references, like sectional charts sometimes? Do the pilots themselves have to carry all this paperwork from cockpit to cockpit?? Or is all this paperwork and info on paper being replaced by laptop computers?

SabenaA340

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User currently offlineOldman From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

Approach plates for all authorized airports plus all alternate's. Jep. Hi and low alt. maps, no sectionals are required or hardly used. Airlines by agreement with Air Transport Ass. never fly VFR from A to B. We can do a visual approach but that is another can of worms. Aircraft manual, Operations manual and the Jep books are usually 2 or 3 in number. Good flash lite and of course the latest Field@Stream or Playboy is a must, not to mention my 9 m/m Glock.  Smile

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Dittos to what Pappy said, but with a few additions and exceptions. I also carry a copy of the computer flight plans, a headset, a pair of spare eyeglassses, and we also carry a complete set of VFR WAC charts for the entire US and Canada since we do, on occasion, fly in and out of non-IFR airports. VFR charts for other areas of the world are purchased on as "as needed" basis. Reading material usually consists of whatever we can scarf from the FBO pilot's lounge. No firearms in our cockpit. I've got a concealed carry permit, but that wouldn't do me much good. We also carry, in database form, and have the means to print every Jepp chart published for any airport in the world with runways > 5000' in length. The paper approach charts are pretty much just for backup. We're in the process of going to a "paperless" cockpit. (I'm not too sure yet how I'm going to like it.)

User currently offlineOldman From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Just kidding about the 9mm, paperless cockpit? Not to sure I'd like that either, what will you use to soak up the cold coffee that gets thrown in the trash bag. Humm??

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2192 times:

Soaking up spilled coffee? That's the copilot's problem. Big grin


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4183 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Yall forgot about the inflatable pilots. That is the essential piece to every airline cockpit.


One of these days im going ot actually bring one of those on board the airplane just to see how people react. Too bad I'd get fired.



Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineUA752 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 142 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

Ive always wondered about guns in the cockpit. Is it at the pilots personal discretion? It seems that a gun would be real useful in an air rage/hijacking situation.

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

No pilot I know of has a gun, for a couple reasons! The airplane is packed full of people, if you miss yoru target you are very likely to hit some innocent person. You could also make a hole in the plane causing a decompression, and also if the gun got into the wrong hands. In air rage situations the crew generally really on the passengers who are very good about dealing with these people.
Iain


User currently offlinePW4084 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Remember the end of 'Goldfinger'  Smile

In addition to the above stated items, we carry an Airport/Facility Directory and our company's General Operations Manual. We also have WACs and a couple of sectionals for the areas we fly in.


User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

At one point, back in the late 60's and 70's when hijackings were all the "rage" flight crews were authorized to carry firearms in the cockpit. Also there were armed air marshals on randomly selected flights. I'm not sure of the current status, but I think that it's been quietly done away with. Pappy in the cockpit with a Glock??? Scary thought. Big grin


User currently offlineSophieMaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

I was on a flight in a turbo prop where the co-pilot had a box of Triscuits.

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

JetGuy, when I was taking a tour of UA ops, I had just done the walk around of the 777 with the FO, and no sooner then we sat in back in the cockpit 2 armed US marshals entered with paper work for the captain to sign so he knew about them being armed. He said it makes him feel much safer, as if a passenger does decide to be naughty he knows they will deal with it, and it will not be his responsibility.
Iain


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4183 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

My dad must have looked like a Beverly Hillbilly coming back from his last trip... two indian rugs, my pro flight kit that he got me for my birthday, and all his normal flight kit and suitcase stuff.



Black gold, texas tea....



Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineSophieMaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

He put two rugs in the cockpit???

User currently offlineJet Joc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Will someone answer the question instead of talking about guns, hijackings, rugs, and your personal crap?

What I take in the cockpit during my lessons: headsets, kneeboard, sectional charts, aircraft checklist.


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4183 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

hehe yeah.. actually he put them in the crew baggage portion under the plane with his bags... in india they fold them up into suitcase size things and wrap them in burlap. Still.. he had to walk down the jet way with all that crap, just handed it to the ground crew at the mouth of hte jetway.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlinePW4084 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

I posted above but will give another more thorough answer for Jet Joc:
Our company provides NOS terminal charts for the entire state we fly in. If we want to use Jeppesen we have to provide our own. They also provide the government versions of the high and low altitude enroute charts and several WACs along with a few sectionals. We use the VFR charts quite a bit, especially when the visibility is good and we want to brush up on exactly what we are flying over. We've got our company's Hazmat Handbook and the Emergency Response Guidebook, a copy of the Airplane Flight Manual, a Minimum Equipment List, a quick reference guide for our GPS, etc. All of that stuff stays in each airplane...if you wanted to you could go from airplane to airplane with just your headset and be able to fly any approach and any airway that we could possibly encounter. Laptop computers and paperless cockpits are far in the future for me  Smile

PW4084


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4183 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Paperless cockpit actually sounds pretty cool.. anyone seen that Jepp approach plate thing in sporty's? I guess i am one of those new fangled pilots. I really like having the paper charts, but not having to carry around all my approach plates and throwing away all those plates every few months kinda sucks. It would be nice to get a software up date instead as long as it doesnt cost me more tahn the price of a car.


Chicks dig winglets.
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