Bryan Becker From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 333 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1818 times:
I scraped up this photo off this website,an I was thinken to my self this is way to close for me?Sitten there haveing a drink and this 727 comes by.Well now you are not drinken it you are sitten in it.now you have to go home and change. What do you think?
I Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1610 times:
Where do you guys see modification? I opened it up in PaintShop and I see NO signs of any modifications. That doesn't mean there can't be any, but you guys make it seem like it should hit you in the face it is so obvious. I have seen and modified many photos myself and can usually pick out any obvious signs. JG, what exactly makes you think it is doctored? I see no reason not to believe Jetguy, it is probably a real approach in Honduras. Looks like a great restaurant, no matter what the food tastes like!
DG_pilot From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 856 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1514 times:
Look at the port side wing and that palm tree. They clearly overlap in the picture. Next look at the shadow of the palm on the wing. Then look at the shadows on the ground. The angles of the shadows do not correspond with each other at all. I would say it is doctored.
Skwpilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 60 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1500 times:
At first, I thought I'd found my new favorite vacation spot, but something didn't look right. Now, I'm no photo expert, however I also think that this photo is doctored. If one looks at the shadow of the horizontal stabilizer on the vertical stabilizer, it would appear that the light source is on the almost directly from the left side of the photo and just slightly above the horizon. This varified by the shadow on the VHF antenna just forward of the wing root- there is very little shadow. Now look at the shadow of the roof of the building on the ground- it looks like the light source is about 45 degrees above the horizon. It just looks like there's two different light sources.
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1481 times:
All I can say is that's a "Air Service of Honduras" B727 and the surrounding area is definatively Tegucigalpa. I used to live there and that's just the way they do it. There's no surprise here. I think that camera lens alters the perspective a bit, but not very much. The entire approach is wild, especially the part where you fly down the canyon. I heard that when TWA first tried it in one of their 727s the pilots refused to fly it out once they had landed. It was a proving flight and TWA ended up sending a special crew to fly the airplane out. Que huevos!
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1466 times:
I like that last picture, the one of the Electra. I first flew in to Tegucigalpa on one of SAHSA's Electras. It was a wild ride - it scared me and I'm fearless. You'll notice the cars parked on the road that runs perpendicular to the runway threshhold. While I was in Honduras, a bus full of people was driving along the road while a DC3 was on short final. They collided and a whole bunch of people were killed. It's a very interesting place - they do things differently down there.
I Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
Okay, let me explain to those who don't believe the photo why I don't think it is doctored. Every shadow in this photograph can be accounted for. I stick with my original post this is NOT doctored. For those that need a little extra help... The clearest shadow is that of the trees and building to the left, use that as a reference. Now using that angle all shadows match. The sunlight is being REFLECTED off the plane at a different angle, which can be confusing if you really scrutinize the photo. It would appear the sun is hitting the plane at a different angle than everything else in the picture, but it is NOT. It is kind of like shining a flashlight into a mirror at an angle and it APPEARS you are pointing it somewhere else in the room. But this happens in real pictures all the time, especially is you have a large shiny object in the center. Everything pointed out has so far been inaccurate, so I still this is a 100% genuine picture.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1466 times:
I route-checked into TGU while dispatching for Air Florida, which had service MIA-TGU-SAP-MIA. I decided to ride down and see things for myself after one of our captains had related the following story to us a couple of weeks earlier..
The captain of one MIA-TGU flight, Ralph XXXX, dragged himself back into our office upon his return to MIA one afternoon, looking like he'd been through the worst sim ride in his life. He wasn't quite happy, and it took us a few minutes to get the story from him, and a couple of hours to figure out what happened.
TGU is a challenging airport, as the photos show. At the time (1982) they had a VOR approach, but the VOR was almost always inop. There were two 2 NDBs near the airport, one north, the other south, and for simplicity' sake, I'll just refer to them as ABC and XYZ.
Captain Ralph shot two approaches into TGU (since they were IMC) and missed both times. The cloulds broke just in time, and he got in visually.
Why did he miss? For reasons that have never been explained, the Honduran goverment folks (without NOTAMing *any* of this) had apparently gone out to the ABC site, removed the transmitter guts, and reinstalled it at the XYZ location. The XYZ transmitter guts were similarly re-installed at the ABC location. Accordingly, he was about 180 degrees off in his orientation to the airport (on top of the cloud deck) and wasn't about to fool around with an IMC letdown in mountainous terrain.
I'll never forget his remark that the navaids down there were strapped to the backs of mountain goats, aimlessly wandering the hills...
Never heard anything from the Hondurans, but ABC and XYZ were swapped back to their proper places a couple of days later....
25 JETPILOT: Boy did you make yourself look stupid. You sure you should be posting things in the tech forum and not listening? JET
26 DG_pilot: Gosh dang it!!! I knew that. What was I thinking.... That bothers me.
27 BO__einG: Wow..But I was told that that is not a busy airport..