WestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1008 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5333 times:
Well, well well! I wonder if it's the "Area 51" airlines that operates out of LAS. You know -- that mysterious 737 with no titles that fly out of there everyday early in the morning.
Title: Boeing 737 FIRST OFFICER (PILOT)
Company: US Corporation Product/Service:
Location: NV Required Travel: None
Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent
Description:
Must possess background and experience sufficient to pilot a Boeing 737 aircraft. Must hold an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate issued by the Federal Aviation Administration. Must hold a First Class Medical Certificate issued by the FAA. Work is primarily sedentary, with some walking, bending, stretching and climbing. Lifting up to 40 pounds may be required. Must be able to qualify for a TS/SSBI security clearance.
Requirements:
In addition to the minimum qualifications, a minimum of 4000 hrs., a B-737 Type Rating, and an active TS/SSBI security clearance is desired.
Note: This excerpt was taken from Skyjobs.net.
Neil
God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5251 times:
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 1): I doubt it, its an air force base after all, you would think they would use their own pilots.
No, it is a Part 121 civil air carrier with only one customer. It would be a terrible waste of training to use an Air Force pilot to run 80 miles back and forth day-VMC across the desert.
Besides not very many USAF pilots have four thousand hours.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5219 times:
But then you'd have to be a member of MIB, and if you join, you will cease to exist to the outside world, and your name will be J. If you leave the organization, your brain will be reformatted with a red light, and you will go postal, literally
Undehoulli From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5202 times:
I was just a bit curious as to how these flights work, so I went to www.flightaware.com - it's a really cool site that allows you to track many GA and airline flights that are IFR or under flight following, unless the aircraft has been blocked. I searched all arrivals into LAS and found a bunch of them arriving and departing,for the Tonopah Test Range, KTNX.
It says all the aircraft are B73Q's, which I imagine are the 737-200's. Looks like the 200 flight numbers go to LAS and the 300's are inbound to TNX. Also, the site gives the owner of various aircraft or the operators for aircraft with a flight number, and it says "Unknown Owner" for all the flights, like WWW310 which flew from TNX to LAS departing at 05:43PM PST and arriving 06:10PM PST. I count 20 departures to LAX and TNX today, 12-13-05 with the first one leaving LAS at 4:17am, so they must have a few aircraft because the times overlap.
AirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5190 times:
Quoting WestIndian425 (Thread starter): In addition to the minimum qualifications, a minimum of 4000 hrs., a B-737 Type Rating, and an active TS/SSBI security clearance is desired.
What the FUC%! Who wants to fly a ragedy 732 on 100 mile runs 5 times a day with 4000 hours AND a rating as a minimum? There must be some good financial compensation. Scenic Airlines seems more appealing for a flying job.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5185 times:
Quoting WestIndian425 (Thread starter): Work is primarily sedentary, with some walking, bending, stretching and climbing. Lifting up to 40 pounds may be required.
Wouldn't the USAF have their own pilots.
regds
MEL
Confuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3633 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5181 times:
Air NZ From New Zealand, joined Jun 2001, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
Lol, Imagine if it was just Civil and you could do it. You come out after a few years, sick and tired of the same boring route, then apply for another job.
To your next airline employer you go well for the past few years, I have flown for umm to ummm from ummm and umm yeah, I can't tell you anything. Also "ALIENS DON'T EXIST!"
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5123 times:
Quoting Sean1234 (Reply 4): I thought Area 51 was no longer in operation.
It never existed except as a map coordinate for a USAF bombing range.
There's an airfield on that map coordinate which is positioned at Groom Lake dry lakebed.
That airfield was the home of several "black" US government projects, a role it officially lost several years ago.
It is now as I understand it listed as a flight testing base and auxiliary airfield for Nellis AFB, NV.
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 9): Wouldn't the USAF have their own pilots.
They have 737 pilots, but none with that number of hours.
Most are flight instructors on crew trainers, and probably do not have ATPL (as they're not civilian rated but military).
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
You are exactly right! No end-of-career "security lobotomy" needed. The sheer boredom of the job would have wiped your brain's hard disk clean by then.
I can't think of anything to recommend this job except probably a decent salary (but not in six figures) and good job security. (unless they cancel some projects)
Other than that all you are going to see is a concrete runway, a dry lake, and some buildings. Anything you might learn is either some BS story the workers cook up to tell the pilots or something you don't want to know. Same route day after day after day. On top of that you'd have to live in or near Las Vegas.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4889 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 18): I couldn´t find it, could you please give us some lattitude and longitude data ?
Probably because it doesn't exist.
At roughly
N 37° 14"
W 115° 49"
you should see a large runway on the west edge of an alkali flat or dry lake.
Or search for Rachel Nevada and look west of there.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
Sean1234 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4885 times:
37 degrees 14 minutes N
115 degrees 49minutes W
Don't know when this was taken. Looks like they have 2 F-16s parked outside and a 737. Observe the area when the dirt has been churned up, they must be burrying something. Also note the baseball diamond for top secret baseball games.
TheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1110 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4780 times:
Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 8): What the FUC%! Who wants to fly a ragedy 732 on 100 mile runs 5 times a day with 4000 hours AND a rating as a minimum? There must be some good financial compensation. Scenic Airlines seems more appealing for a flying job.
Id bet the pay and benefits aren't too bad. I'd gather that it would be a good job if you really wanted to fly, stay in Vegas, and be home every night (which is a big deal if you are a pilot).
Yeah, it might be boring, but if you'd rather spend time with your family and not at the Albuquerque Comfort Inn, its probably not a bad deal.
GreatChecko
"A pilot's plane she is. She will love you if you deserve it, and try to kill you if you don't...She is the Mighty Q400"
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4762 times:
Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 23): Yeah, it might be boring, but if you'd rather spend time with your family and not at the Albuquerque Comfort Inn, its probably not a bad deal.
Out here B732 Freighter operators earn almost Double of NG pilots.Some where they are compensated for the Workload,glamour & carrier sacrifice.
regds
MEL
Think of the brighter side!
25 FLY2HMO: I wonder what they use the king air and the Beech 1900s for...
26 SlamClick: Smaller loads, I expect. I'd guess that housing out at the base is in short supply and not real attactive to married employees. Hence, they have dail
27 Woodreau: I thought it was interesting that the founder of EG&G invented the strobelight in 1931 and tried to market it to GE (GE didn't want it because it didn
28 FLY2HMO: Not that I am questioning you, but the only opening I saw for pilots was for the gulfstream. Also, I never saw anything for Nevada. I just typed "pil
29 Boeingfanyyz: Simply click on the button on the left that says "Sightseeing" and you can type in "Area 51" and Google Earth will automatically take you there. Very
30 BladeLWS: It's like they say in Vegas... What goes on in Area 51, stays in Area 51. I don't really care what the Air Force does out there, or want to know for t
31 HAWK21M: What about the Military Personnell in that zone.How do they get in & out of it.Is there a Gate/road. Are they sworn to secrecy. regds MEL
32 Woodreau: I have no idea whether the 737 position is open - it doesn't appear to be, the 737 job opening came from the very first post which started this threa
33 BladeLWS: From what is known most are bussed in on charter buses or flown in on Janet airways. There is a couple of roads, and they are guarded night and day,
34 Eaglejock21: If you use Google Earth and type in Area 51, you can accually see two of these 737-200 on the ground. Also a coulpe of props and helos, looks like Bla
35 HAWK21M: Do their Families know where they work. regds MEL
36 BladeLWS: I believe that immeadiate family are allowed to know where they work, but when the kids ask what you did at work today, you can't say.
37 SlamClick: Where they work - no problem. What they, or anybody else does there - secret. And you may be sure that the people they hire will keep it secret. The
38 HAWK21M: Out here There were many secret Developments on the Mig projects between the IAF & then USSR. The Team members were flown into the project Area & not
39 Lehpron: There are some that would claim the lack of observable operations from distant points around the base would show the base is inactive. That said, we
40 Eaglejock21: Is it not anybody how like me thought is was really cool that one could see the 737-200's on the ramps of Area 51? I think Google Earth is really good
41 SlamClick: I would expect that on any given weekday there would be one or two parked on the ramp. I've wondered if the satellite pictures that make up Google Ea
42 Turnit56N: I've came across that type of resolution before, and I commend you, sir. One of my college roommates had a grandfather that worked at the Skunkworks.
43 FlyboySMF2GFK: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/123225/page/ Open the placemark near the top of the post and make sure that the "Google Eart
44 Usnseallt82: Yes, they are. As well as many other pilots who fly aircraft for the DoD. Most of these guys, if not all, are former military pilots with several tho
45 HAWK21M: We've had a few from the VVIP Squadron fly for us recently.And they are Military Pilots. regds MEL
46 WestIndian425: Perhaps the job has been filled by now. It has been a while. Neil
47 HAWK21M: Guess no one would ever know Who got the job any good link on Area 51 regds MEL
48 Flyf15: Just in case anyone is curious, I'm sitting here with Google Earth measuring the runway dimensions at Area 51: The paved runways at Area 51 are: 14/32
49 HAWK21M: Any Experimental Aircraft would want maximum length. Pls provide the Link to Google earth Area 51 location. regds MEL
50 Noelg: Looking at Google Earth is fascinating! On the ground I count: 2 x Fighter jets (not sure what they are, not big on mil I'm afraid, top left hand apro
53 Vikkyvik: You have to have Google Earth downloaded (www.earth.google.com). If you do, the coordinates are approximately: 37 deg, 14 min N 115 deg, 48 min W Pre
54 Noelg: You can download Google Earth and search for "Area 51" and it takes you straight there! Cheers, Noel
55 HAWK21M: Ok Thanks for the data.I'll download it. regds MEL
56 Espion007: Since were all talking about area 51..... I was thinking-if lets say, a large airliner was to crash land in area 51, with a couple passengers dead, bu
57 Stoicescu: They won't crash land there. It is Prohibited Airspace I'm sure there are probably other airports closer to to the aircraft routing than Area 51.
58 HAWK21M: Since the Area is restricted.Chances are that They'd never reach there,And if they did,I think the investigation would be carried out by the forces c
59 BladeLWS: The area is restricted, and not on any maps or charts, not even military charts. So if you needed to crash land there you'd have a hard time finding i
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