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Aircraft Door Seal Stickers  
User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1046 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

I frequently see yellow/black stickers at aircraft doors when I board. Most of the time a couple of them on top of each other. They seem to be a kind of seal from maintenance which break up when the door would be opened. I just wondered what they stand for and why they are not removed but left there. It makes a strange view.


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User currently offlineCharliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 479 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

As you give no real details, I will generalise.
Some airlines/countries require their aircraft secured when they spend the night at a foreign airport. The easiest way to do this is with a seal on the doors.
Why aren't they removed? Laziness.


User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1046 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4688 times:

thanks for the explanation. good reason.


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14030 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

Most of them also stick like the devil and are a bitch to remove (obviously you don't want a criminal to just unstick a seal, open the door and stick it back afterwards, so they are designed to rather break than to unstick).

Jan


User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4633 times:

Yep, they are security at its best. When the flight crew arrives to an airplane and the seal is broken they know someone other than them has opened a part of the airplane (stickers are on all (cargo) doors, maintenance access doors and the like).

Now, the funny thing is that they are actually useless, at least at one airport I worked the ones who applied the stickers where the aircraft (inside/outside) cleaners and they were usually the ones working for leasing companies ("ISS" etc..) therefore being the ones with the lowest pay. The Crews of aircraft arriving at night where long gone while these cleaners did their job..



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User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4580 times:

There are also the "Security Seal" stickers. I never got to see one though. I looked everywhere but only found the dogs...  Sad


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User currently offlineLiedetectors From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Ive been on American Eagle ERJs that had quite a few stickers on them. AEs were silver and said "American Eagle" and some other writing.


If it was said by us, then it must be true.
User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

"SEAL VOID IF BROKEN" perhaps..


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User currently offlineUndehoulli From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

I've seen NetJets pilots put them on their airplanes. A little red sticker about 1" x 3" with an identification number printed on it. It's all about security. They even lock the aircraft doors and double-up with the sticker.

User currently offlineSfomb67 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4486 times:

These must be the stickers I've seen on the little compartment doors inside the lav's on UAL lately. Doors for tissues, trash and even the toilet shroud.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4477 times:

Out here They are used by the Security Department mainly when the Aircraft is parked for a long halt.If the Sticker is torn off.A detailed check is done for suspected tampering.
The Stickers when removed break up into pieces & are tough to take off at times,especially when it sticks to the corners of the door frames.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineWhiskeyflyer From Ireland, joined May 2002, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

On our ferry flights customs places them on all the doors and anything that looks like a door. The worst to remove are we found applied in India and Sweden.

We are having to look into the seals on the lavs etc in case objects placed behind the panels, this is a problem on older jets as they do not have the lovely big one piece formed units (the problem is some panels are low, so kids get at them in the lav, so what do you do when the seal is broken, we still discussing this issue........ sticker loose so divert immediately? maybe not)


User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

Hands up who takes the tissues out of the toilets on a wet day too wipe the door/fuse aperture before trying too stick the bloody things on!

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4410 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
The Stickers when removed break up into pieces & are tough to take off at times,especially when it sticks to the corners of the door frames

Also forgot to mention that these Stickers have a Signature column which is filled by the Security staff supervising the Closure of that door & his signature & no is added on it.
regds
MEL



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User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

Cruise ships have these stickers which is put on gift shops on board. Most of the time it's an official sticker of the government to where it's docked at during it's trip other than it's home country.

Like a US reg'ed cruise ship leaves from Mami, FL to St. Martin, you'd see a orange sticker on the gift shop doors saying it's illegal to conduct business while docked at this country and it will be removed on departure.
I know this because I had to get film for the camera back a long time ago and saw this.


User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

We get those stickers on our a/c that spend the night at yvr and a few other places.They are put on all of the cargo and pax doors.If the seals are broken the a/c requires another security check.

User currently offlineAvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Quoting A/c train (Reply 12):
Hands up who takes the tissues out of the toilets on a wet day too wipe the door/fuse aperture before trying too stick the bloody things on!

Well I don't take them from the toilet because I have a stock in my van now because of the amount of times we have to put these silly stickers on. Even if you leave the aircraft for like 10 mins to go back to the office for something you have to put a sticker on.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 16):
Even if you leave the aircraft for like 10 mins to go back to the office for something you have to put a sticker on.

Who puts the Sticker.
Mx or Security.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 18):
Who puts the Sticker.
Mx or Security.

It is us in Mx that puts the sticker on the door. There would not be enough people in security to put stickers on everytime we had to stick one over the door at an airport like LGW. The procedures do vary from airport to airport though, but I guess it probably best to not say much more than that on a public forum like this.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 19):
The procedures do vary from airport to airport



Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 19):
It is us in Mx that puts the sticker on the door

Is the Sticker signed by the person installing it.And who removes it.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineXORDLLAA From Poland, joined Feb 2005, 99 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 18):
Who puts the Sticker.

whoever secures the aircraft. When the security search is completed, authorized person (i.e. supervisor of cleaning crew) sign the security slip that the security search of the aircraft was completed, at what time, what is the aircraft fleet number, and that person seals the doors then. (at least here at ORD)



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User currently offlineAvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 20):
Is the Sticker signed by the person installing it.And who removes it.

No it is not signed but the stickers are serialised and the serial number is recorded along with the time and the person who fitted it in our security book.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

Thanks....Surprisingly how different common things are done around the world  Smile
regds
MEL



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