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User currently offlineMarkyp From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Hi all,

Got a flight plan here for an ATR72-500 Operator just hoping someone could shed some light on it!!

From Gatwick to Liverpool

B-TRIP 00:49 630
C-CONT 00:02 30
D-ALT 00:49 670
E-HOLD 00:30 390
REQD 02:10 1770

= EGKK 211

So from this i cannot see where the reserve comes into play.....! With this rule below:

Final Reserve Fuel should, for turbine engine aeroplanes, be sufficient to fly for 30 minutes at

1500 ft above the aerodrome, which could be the destination alternate or else it could be the

intended destination (when no destination alternate is required).

Can anyone shed any light on this?? Hold and reserve fuel are seperate right?!


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User currently offlineMarkyp From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2152 times:

Can anyone advise on this please??


User currently offline727EMflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Looks like this plan is calling the reserve gas "hold." I can't speak from a dispatcher's point of view, but I would imagine that on scheduled routes the operator knows how long the aircraft will spend in approach patterns waiting for other traffic, and would factor that into the planned trip fuel. And the reserve is basically meant to make up for delays anyway, with the regs stating you need enough gas to get to where you're going plus 30 min... not enough to get there, some to wait around doing eights, and also 30 min for emergency.
An amateur's answer probably isn't what you are looking for, but maybe it will spark the conversation! Also, try re-titling (if you can) since this thread is about fuel loading rather than a specific aircraft.

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