HangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 627 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7789 times:
Well, I'm dying to know. It's a Google-proof question.
I'm going to guess that it has something to do with planting a 767 firmly on the numbers of one of LGA's short runways and the resulting change in the shape of the aircraft.
Aogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 933 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7777 times:
Hhmmm....since I have absolutely no clue, I'm going to pick on MX757 as the King of Useless Trivia..... But I'll anxiously await both the answer and the next question.
Deltamike172 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7674 times:
Well, I don't know if the correct answer is up there, but I'll throw down Question #2:
Fr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 4346 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7646 times:
The LaGuardia bend can also be called the SFO bend. The B767-100 could not land at either LGA or SFO because of runway loading. In order to alleviate this problem Boeing and I believe Goodrich redisgned the gear so that the gear footprint is wider. This added width caused a clearance problem in the wing root. Hence the little pop-up door on top of the wing. As the gear cycles, the top of the strut passes through the door.
MX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 602 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7591 times:
Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 3): LGA in someplaces is built on piers. To spread out the weight load the gear on the 767 is bent.
Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 6): The LaGuardia bend can also be called the SFO bend. The B767-100 could not land at either LGA or SFO because of runway loading. In order to alleviate this problem Boeing and I believe Goodrich redisgned the gear so that the gear footprint is wider. This added width caused a clearance problem in the wing root. Hence the little pop-up door on top of the wing. As the gear cycles, the top of the strut passes through the door.
MX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 602 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7583 times:
Dl757md From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1555 posts, RR: 18 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7529 times:
Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 7): How do you put a 767 on Ground Service power from the cockpit?
Dl_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1769 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7499 times:
Assume external power is already powering the A/C.
1) Place throttles full forward.
2) Turn off Stby power and External Power from the Cockpit panel.
3) Return Throttles to idle.
The plane is now on Ground Service.
This works on DL's 767's and may not work on other configurations (not sure about 764). I tried it on a 757 and it didn't work. I was shown this at work by someone who was shown by an instructor. Sorry, I don't have a manual reference. I thought it was pretty cool.
[Edited 2006-04-08 17:46:28]
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AvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7486 times:
Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 11): Assume external power is already powering the A/C.
1) Place throttles full forward.
2) Turn off Stby power and External Power from the Cockpit panel.
3) Return Throttles to idle.
The plane is now on Ground Service.
This works on DL's 767's and may not work on other configurations (not sure about 764). I tried it on a 757 and it didn't work. I was shown this at work by someone who was shown by an instructor. Sorry, I don't have a manual reference. I thought it was pretty cool.
Wow I am impressed!!! haha. I think I will have to try this one next week at work. It must be something to do with the shedding of the Utility Busses with the advancing of the throttles.
Onetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 287 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7384 times:
Quoting Deltamike172 (Reply 5): Well, I don't know if the correct answer is up there, but I'll throw down Question #2:
What is an ATCAA?
-DM
Air Traffic Control Assigned Airspace. It's amazing what you'll learn at the Cheesecake Factory.
Kaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 28 Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7311 times:
Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 16): start the APU? wouldnt that bring up the APU page automatically?
Hillarious... What if you've Just shut down the APU and you have no ground power? The ECAM screen goes blank because its not part of the "essential" instruments and the batteries are shedding all non-essential loads...
There is a trick to bring up the APU status page so you can monitor the shutdown...
Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
Matt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7295 times:
Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 17): Hillarious... What if you've Just shut down the APU and you have no ground power? The ECAM screen goes blank because its not part of the "essential" instruments and the batteries are shedding all non-essential loads...
how do you do it then? and why would you do it? i can't really see a point to it!
Kaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 28 Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7260 times:
Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 18): how do you do it then? and why would you do it? i can't really see a point to it!
You press and hold the APU button on the ECAM Selector panel on the centre console...
The point to it is, you ensure that the engine is spooling down correctly, if you had a sudden rise in EGT or erratic N1 Speeds... you would know that something was wrong with the APU
Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
MX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 602 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7148 times:
AvionicMech From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 315 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7126 times:
Yeah AFOLTS is the fire detection system but I can't remember if it is P50 or P51 that the cards are in, but it is obvious when you look at them because it says something like Fire Detection Cards on the front.
But you have to be careful because there are two different detection systems on the RB-211 engines and the AFOLTS cards are not interchangeable.
Kaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 28 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7110 times:
Which instrument in the cockpit can be used to listen to commercial radio stations?
Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
25 AvionicMech: Thats an easy one!!! The ADF can be tuned to MW stations such as 909 (Radio 5 Live) for the sport when you are working in the flightdeck.
27 HAWK21M: Automatic Fire/Overheat Logic/Test System card ADF. regds MEL
28 KELPkid: You can also use the ADF to locate the transmitter site of your favorite AM station...I have even heard of flight instructors in the area that "inven
29 HAWK21M: Which Part on the B737s is called "Elephant Ears". regds MEL
30 AvionicMech: I can't say that I have heard of that saying before but it has got to be the gear doors which you always hit your head or back on when doing a wheel
31 Kaddyuk: I'm more of a Captial Gold Man myself... Cant beat a bit 'o elvis or The beatles... :P Would knowing where the crew cart & bacon sarnies are locat
32 AvionicMech: Of Course it is, but I am thinking more like the ice cream.
33 Kaddyuk: Currently you can find marble cake in Galley #2 on flights from the USA and i must tell you... It is to DIE for... :P
34 AvionicMech: Yeah but I am sure your airline probably has slightly better catering that we have. We are usually really happy if we find a couple of chocolate bars
35 Miamiair: Fairings attached at the inboard end of the inboard mid flap...
36 KELPkid: Okay, here's one... What is the "Cessna Diamond", and how does one go about winning this "award" ? Brent
37 HangarRat: The Cessna Diamond: Walk into the trailing edge, and it will appear on your forehead. Similar to the Cessna dimple, no?[Edited 2006-04-11 01:16:37]
38 Kaddyuk: The Cessna Diamond is that award given to the unattentive pilots who happen to make contact with the trailing edge of the wing of a cessna. Forming a
39 Bri2k1: ...or is it? There's a big tower (850AM, KOA) located not too far from the departure end of runway 10 at APA. On a hot summer day, when a C-172 is go
40 HAWK21M: Not as bad as those on Freighters though.No variaty. How does this look like exactly.What causes the Diamond shape. regds MEL
41 MX757: Okay, that's a good one. Here's another one: What part on the DC-9/MD-80 are called "Elephant Ears"? These are some good questions! You got me on all
42 Miamiair: Guess would be the Main Gear Wheel Well Doors?
44 Kaddyuk: It looks exactly like a diamond and is caused by the trailing edge of the high wing on most cessna light aircraft Hahaha!
45 Fr8mech: What is: Sailboat on a B747 (classic). Doghouse on a B747 (classic). Donkey Dick on a DC8. Elephant Ear on a B727. What is a Plasta-Jet (early term).
50 Miamiair: What part of the 727 pylon splits open? AFAIK, the trailing edge is a riveted wedge.
51 Kaddyuk: He didnt mention the 727 we're talking about the '74 Ahhh... Where the hydraulics are? I know where you mean... The outboard ones are so friggin heav
52 Matt72033: the 727 is a boeing thats the chappy
53 Kaddyuk: Alright... Edited because i'm too lethargic today...
54 Miamiair: Where is the Hell Hole in the 727? How many leading edge slats does the 707-300 have? DC-8, has slots or slats?
55 ReidYYZ: I know Iv'e already revealed the answer, hoping for short-term memories and even shorter attentoin spans: Why is it you lose primary flight control in
56 MX757: Answer: The 48 section. Answer: 0. The 707-300 has L.E. Kruger Flaps. Answer: Slots.[Edited 2006-04-11 20:39:15]
57 Miamiair: 707 does have slats. All leading edge devices outboard of the inboard engines are slats. Inboard of the inboard engines are Kruger Flaps. Ref: 707-30
58 MX757: Okay, well I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
59 KELPkid: Hi MEL, The trailing edges on the wings of a single-engined Cessna are taken up entirely by the control surfaces (inboard flaps, outboard ailerons).
61 DH106: I think we're just arguing nomenclature here - but I'm pretty certain all the 707's LE devices would be called Kruger's, or else a similar type of fl
62 SkydrolBoy: Heres one for you guys, Which commercial aircraft was the first to come with an apu from the factory???
64 Aogdesk: B737-100?? Original 727 APU wasn't OEM judging from its location
65 SkydrolBoy: You got it MX757, the 727 was the first aircraft to come with an APU. OK next question, on factory original 727-100's what does the "APU" light on the
71 474218: Correct answers DH106: A Leading Edge Flap when extended will not create a Slot between the Flap and the Wing. A Leading Edge Slat when extended will
72 Mainliner: The exhaust exit door (if installed) is open?
73 SkydrolBoy: Both of you are correct, on original 100's there was an exhaust exit door, and when the light was on indicated that the door was open, on -200's and
74 Avt007: Some early turboprops came with a sort of APU. The Convair 580 had what they called a GTC- gas turbine compressor. It was used for starting the engine
75 SkydrolBoy: Actually some CV-580's did have an APU, some a/c had it mounted in the tail while others had what we call an upside down GTC, its basically the same
76 DH106: Yes, the slots were formed by doors in the main wing surface near the LE opening inwards. The spanwise extent of these slots is actually quite small
77 Dl757md: Finally got a chance to try it out last night on ship 1404. Works as advertised. Have tried it on several 764s though with no luck. Neat trick DL757M
78 Sfomb67: OK, I have to get in on this with my favorite : where is the SOB fairing on a 767? If you ever replaced or rigged this, you won't forget it.
79 VC-10: Looking at my copy of Boeing 707-720 Reference Guide (Boe Doc D6-40942) it says the 707 has 3 L.E. Flaps per side & 10 L.E. Slats per side.
80 Miamiair: I agree with everything you wrote, but the "slats" on the 707 are not simply hinged, but articulated; and they do leave a slot. This is the differenc
81 MD11Engineer: Ok, where is the snake pit on a 737? Jan
82 474218: In Reply 61 there is a picture of a 707-720 wing, do the Flaps/Slats extend further forward until the line up with the mark on the nacelles?
83 HAWK21M: Near Main Distribution Manifold,Aft wall of Fwd Cargo Compt. regds MEL
85 Sfomb67: Did we establish the correct answers for these ? ?
86 DH106: Yes - I take your point about the articulation & slot, but never the less in an engineering sense they do pivot down around a 'notional' LE hinge poi
90 Sfomb67: Don't know the nickname, but if this is the plane that made an emergency landing at SFO after the named incident, I seem to remember something being
92 HangarRat: "The Dive Queen" I can't recall, or find the specifics, but she landed with a permanent set to the wings, resulting in the loss or gain of several in
93 MX757: Two inch gain to be exact. Boy, I thought that one would be a little harder figure out. Do you have a subscription Air & Space magazine?
97 Sfomb67: I can't believe nobody has guessed at this ! Are there no 767 mechanics out here? It's on the 762 & 763 (probably the 764). It's called the SOB in th
98 AeroWeanie: Krueger Flaps, not Kruger Flaps! Krueger was a German aerodynamicist... Here is a good question: what commercial airliner type has been in service wit
99 CdfMxTech: U gotta do this again. I got in after this topic was already gang banged
100 DH106: Four distinct engine manufacturers ? Not 'alliance' etc ?
101 CdfMxTech: DL_Mech. Just curious. If external was powering main buses, then BAT switch was on. U said place throttles full fwd, turn off stb pwr and external, r
102 ReidYYZ: Since: Proved too challenging, or too idiotic to even answer, here is another to ignore: On the Tristar, what is known as the 'feces'? (not lav relate
103 DH106: Tempted to say the venerable old DC-3/C-47 cos as well as the 'official' US Wright & PW engines, the foreign 'versions' had their own home grown powe
104 DH106: And it's just occurred to me that the DC-3 was also re-engined in small numbers with RR-Darts and Napier Elland turbo props...... The Dart version did
105 AeroWeanie: Not the answer I had in mind, but it is a good one! I'm thinking of an airliner type that has been in regular airline service with engines made by fo
106 DH106: Not a trick question i.e. including APU ?
107 Miamiair: B-767 Pratt & Whitney Rolls Royce GE Honeywell/Allied Signal (APU)
108 AeroWeanie: Nope. And, not including testbeds (the 707/720 series, if you include testbeds, have flown with P&W, RR, CFM, IAE and Honeywell engines)
109 DH106: 'CFM International' counts as 'General Electric' - yes?
111 2H4: De Havilland DH-114 Heron. Powered by four De Havilland Gipsy Queen 30 Mk 2 engines. Riley Turbo skyliner. Powered by four Lycoming IO-540 engines. S
112 Texfly101: Wow, this thread brings back memories...One day, when I was 14, I went to my father and said I wanted to buy a surfboard. Being the ex-military flight
115 2H4: How about some Cessna trivia? Q: Which Cessna had the slowest typical landing speed? Q: How can one visually distinguish a Cessna 190 from a Cessna 1
116 DH106: Where it says "Cessna 19x" on the fuselage ?
117 2H4: No, silly. "Cessna 19X" is the designation for the upcoming double-decker single-engine Cessna. 2H4
119 KELPkid: Wild guess... My vote goes fo the Cessna 120 with fabric wings...that's the slowest Cessna I've ever been a passenger on Slower than the 150 even! An
120 2H4: Methinks the 140 would land even slower, what with the flaps, but neither one is the correct answer... Hmm...not sure about this one. It may very wel
121 AeroWeanie: "Wings of Cessna" claims that the only difference between a 190 and a 195 is that the 190 had a Warner engine and the 195 had a Jacobs engine. Late mo
122 2H4: There's one distinct, albiet very minor difference that applies to unmodified 190s and 195s. You'd have to be standing next to one to notice, but wha
123 KELPkid: I was going through my old issues of AOPA pilot this morning, and ran across a reference that said that Cessna, ever so briefly, actually built a GA
124 HangarRat: No, I used to have a subscription when I was a kid. Part of the inexplicable/inappropriate obessession with flying. Actually it's in my blood, but a
125 2H4: Ha, you got it! That's exactly the Cessna to which I was referring! 2H4
126 KBGRbillT: We had this a/c at BGR in the late summer of '05 and had to practly rip the money from their wallet to get payed for the fuel and ground services!!!
127 KBGRbillT: I think you mean whiffletree not wiffletree and this is a term usually used to describe the aft mount (pylon to engine cast iron piece) for jet engin
128 IFIXCF6: In 747/757/767 AC, is it possible to transfer hydraulic fluid (quantity) from one system to another? If so, how?
129 ScarletHarlot: Here's a picture of her from the local Thunder Bay news website (from John and Karen Sidorowicz): And one from the database: View Large View Medium P
130 Abbs380: 2H4, Would you be thinking of the extra bulges around the engine cowling on the 195 vs the 190? Didnt this have something to do with fairing in the sp
131 ReidYYZ: A330: How can you check oil qty on ECAM (ENG page) without selecting FADEC ground power overhead?
133 2enginesonly: On the 767 ( forgot about the 757 ) only between the centre and right hydraulic system by applying parking brake with one of those systems, switching
134 David L: Since you're asking how it's done, I'm going to take a wild guess and say yes, it's possible.
135 KBGRbillT: So is my answer incorrect? You never said whether I got it right or not.[Edited 2006-04-22 16:44:32]
136 A/c train: ReidYYZ, I havnt had anything to do with this thread but what kind of question is that? you dont need FADEC gnd power to read oil qty on ECAM.
137 MD11Engineer: On the 757 it was the left and right system, same on the 737NG. Jan
139 ReidYYZ: Normal power supply for FADEC is the dedicated generator. When the engine is shut down the primary power supply is no longer available. To clarify, g
140 VC-10: Turn the Start Master Sw to Ign/Start or Crank.
141 3DPlanes: Don't ask how I found this thread, as I don't recall... But considering the "ID This" thread was a hit, I thought I'd re-ask the items from this threa
142 HAWK21M: This is one real good thread.Awaiting those Answers eagerly too. regds MEL
143 KELPkid: I think this one was actually answered, and the answer is that the Cessna 195 has "bumps" on the radial cowl (clearance for the spark plugs on the "S
144 HAWK21M: Why is the System B Return Filter Housing of the Strapwrench type on the B732.When the rest of the Filter housings can be opened by a wrench. Isn't co
145 Valcory: Ok here is one which engine was the first FADEC engine( on a commercial airplane)
148 Pihero: This is getting toooo technical, so a wee bit of real aviation trivia : What does an "Abbeville HARD" refer to ?
149 474218: What you are calling 'feces' is really the "FCES" and stands for the "Flight Controls Electronic System".
150 3DPlanes: I saw that answer, but I don't think 2H4 (or whoever posed it) actually said whether this was correct or not... Plus, I've looked at photos (here and
151 474218: My two (2) part question: 1. What aircraft had "turkey feathers and cabbage slicers"? 2. Where were they located?
152 KELPkid: The F-15 and F-16... On the nozzle section of the engine (the variable geometry exhaust nozzle that could contract or expand as needed). Don't know a
153 2H4: Yep, it was me. The answer is yes...the 190 and 195 can be differentiated by their cowls....most of the time. The problem is, many owners change the
154 474218: Correct along with lots of others. Correct again and the "cabbage slicers" they are the sliding pieces the in between the "turkey feathers". They app
155 KBFIspotter: I like that conversion... Kind of like the conversion I want to do to a 150: Texas Taildragger conversion, make it into a tandem seater, add a RR All
156 Mender: A fairing attached to the inboard end of the inboard flap.
157 ATCme: Hey I have no idea, but would someone please guess already so we can find out the answers? I'm dying to know! ATCme
158 TheCheese: A wiffletree is a test rig used to apply force loads onto different parts of an airframe under lab conditions on the ground.
159 VC-10: No! Well, not in my case. It is part of the Elevator & Rudder Feel Units on the BAC One-Eleven. Denver Go Vlv. Due to the high alt of Denver some ear
160 ReidYYZ: No, I'm refering to something else. Additional clue: What is phonetically refered to as a 'Me-Sees'-similar to the 'feces' in pronunciation and gener
162 FLY2HMO: OK, here's a silly one: Name four Airplanes that are not fixed wing.
163 David L: Well, I'll go for the F-8 Crusader for a start. Then there are several variable-geometry offerings, such as the F-14, Tornado, F-111, etc. I've misse
164 FLY2HMO: Aww dangit, I should've know better than to underestimate the IQ of my fellow A.nutters, specially those lurking in tech/ops But ya, I was thinking a
165 2H4: And yet, somehow, I can never remember to pay my student loans on time... Here's a question that several of you will undoubtedly know: What was the f
166 Kaddyuk: Counter-Rotating props would be on the Wright Flyer, if you meant Contra-Rotating props then i dont know...
167 474218: Spent 32 years (more than half my life) working on the L-1011 and have no idea what you are talking about.
169 ReidYYZ: As I guessed before: I'm refering to the FESC and MESC service centers. Also refered to as the "Fesk" and "Mesk" (rhyming with desk).
170 A/c train: Heres my question, What is a BBRT ?
171 474218: Now I understand what your talking about. The FESC (forward electronic service center) and MESC (mid electronic service center), the "C" is pronounce
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