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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?  
User currently offlineSpikebe90 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 29 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

To all you A-Net people.If I am off the topic,please let me know.Could you please tell me if any of the new airliner buildes are equipped with FADEC?
Thanks.  Confused


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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6548 times:

FADEC is Full Authority Digital Engine Control, or EEC Electronic Engine Control. Virtually all new build turbofan engines are now controlled by this system.

Is this what you're asking?


User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6530 times:

I'm pretty sure they all are nowadays. It's a standard flight deck feature on large commercial airliners like autothrottles and GPS and lambskin seatcovers. (Well, maybe not that last one...  wink  )

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User currently offlineSpikebe90 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6519 times:

Thanks.We are looking at a CJ-2 + that has FADEC.I've never used it before.Should be interesting.


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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6502 times:

I assume most new turbine aircraft will have FADEC.
The new Cessna Citation Mustang (4 place, 8,000 lb jet aircraft) will have dual channel FADEC controlled engines.
Also the Cessna Citation CJ1+ and CJ2+ Part 23 jet have FADEC.



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

The best analogy for FADEC/EEC would a comparison of an old technology (carburaterur) auto engine to a new one with electronic fuel injection. From the user's perspective, it's much easier and more reliable.

Speaking as a pilot, the days of the mechanical fuel control units are long gone. I've been on FADEC/EEC engines since about 1987 and can't think of a single FADEC/EEC problem I've had. However in the 12 years prior to that, I lost count of the mechanical fuel control problems I encountered.


User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6472 times:

Quoting Spikebe90 (Reply 3):
Thanks.We are looking at a CJ-2 + that has FADEC.I've never used it before.Should be interesting.

Those new FJ44-3-24 engines are supposed to be awesome. It can carry alot of weight (tanks full) and get over 1500nm. Throw in the Collins 21 Avionics suite and that thing is a dream to fly. We are acquiring one as well.


User currently offlineSpikebe90 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6412 times:

Thanks guys.I'm looking foreward to flying this airplane ,,using FADEC,and also the Pro Line avionics suite.

Bye  cloudnine 



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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6330 times:

The Dash 8-Q400 also has FADEC. I don't know if any other turboprops have it.

User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6289 times:

EEC is also becoming more and more common on light piston singles and twins. It is standard on most of the new diesel models and several avgas powered aircraft have it as well.


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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6286 times:

"The FAA has approved the Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) for general aviation. Developed by Teledyne Continental Motors and Aerosance, the system uses computers to better track and optimize engine conditions, adjusting mixture, carb heat, propeller pitch and power automatically. Aerosance claims that FADEC greatly improves engine performance, lowering fuel burn by as much as 15%. Retrofit kits are available for Bonanzas, and STCs are in the works for Barons and Cessna 206/210s. Teledyne says FADEC systems will be standard or optional equipment on the Adam A500, Cirrus SR22, Lancair 350 and 400, Liberty XL-2 and Diamond C-1."


http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/products/2003/jan.html

It's amazing how quickly technology is filitering down to GA nowadays


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6246 times:

Quoting Spikebe90 (Thread starter):
Could you please tell me if any of the new airliner buildes are equipped with FADEC?

The Embraer 135/140/145/170/175/190/195 have all FADAC.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6171 times:

Most current modern Aircraft are FADEC equipped.
regds
MEL

[Edited 2006-04-12 08:09:13]


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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6124 times:

Something in the RB211 thread about QF 767-336ERs recently being equipped with FADEC, but their own -338ERs haven't yet.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6063 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 13):

Whats the difference between -336ERs & -338ERs.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6058 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 14):
Whats the difference between -336ERs & -338ERs

36 is the Boeing customer code referring to British Airways and 38 is the customer referring to Qantas.

The 767-336ERs were built for BA and are a number of them are currently on lease to Qantas. Their registrations are VH-ZX* and they are equipped with the RB211s and they've got 4 exit doors. The leases were just renewed and apparently they recently equipped them with FADEC.

The 767-338ERs are Qantas build machines. They've got CF6s and 2 emergency exit doors/2 overwing exits.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 15):

Educational.
Thanks.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 811 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

Walter M601 turboprop engine uses IELU, which is a intervention limiter unit - not sure if this is equivalent to FADEC.


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