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User currently offlineDTW_Steve From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 93 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

Hi....
This might seem like a strange question, but I've always wondered: Why are the engine pylons different on the #2 and #3 engines on 707's? The pylon comes all the way to the front of the engine nacelle, as in this picture.


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I haven't seen any pylons like this on other jetliners, nor have I seen jetliners where the outboard engines have standard pylons, and the inboard ones are different. Is this simply more favorably aerodynamically, or does the longer pylon house some sort of equipment. Any insights would be appreciated, since when I know the answer to this question, I'll no longer have to lie awake at night thinking about it! Big grin

Regards,
Steve

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User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2682 times:

The thing on the inboard pylons is a turbocompressor so the cabin can maintain pressurization...there used to be one on all four when the 707 had turbojets, but with the turbofans, for some reason two were enough, so they omitted the outer ones.

User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Wait...I know now...the pic you posted is that of a 720...the shorter version of the 707. The reason why this one has only two turbocompressors is the shorter cabin...doesn't need the extra oomph of four turbocompressors.

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6836 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Yup, if you look at other 707 pics you'll see the turbocompressor (or at least the housing for it) on #4 as well-- usually. Some freighters lacked the #4.

User currently offlineExpratt From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

The 720, which is pictured, had the turbocompressors on engines 2 and 3. The 707 had the turbocompressors on engines 2, 3, and 4.

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6452 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Expratt is correct.
The reason for putting three turbocompressors on the 707 (while only two on the 720) was not just the longer cabin. Greater capacity could have been had much easier and cheaper by just scaling up the two a little.

The main reason for having three is greater redundancy needed on an intercontinental airliner.

Imagine a 720 having a problem with #2 engine and a problem with the torbocompressor on #3 engine in the middle of an ocean. It would have a real problem.

But since the 720 was made for transcontinental flights, then it would always have a runway within reach even if it had to cruise at low altitude.

Best regards, Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineAFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Hey Prebennorholm, what you said about the 720 is true but don't forget Aer Lingus operated them transatlantically from Dublin to NY so this coud have happened


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