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"Continental Ramp Procedures" At EWR?  
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21803 posts, RR: 55
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5427 times:

Sometimes on the ATIS at EWR I hear "Continental ramp procedures in effect." Does anyone know what those procedures are?

-Mir


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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5353 times:

Found the answer on Google:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...t%22&rnum=1&hl=en#be1c8a7d765be492


User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5308 times:

This also happens at IAH.... There is absolutely no information on my NOTAMS about it nor in my airline's INternal NOTAMS.

When I go there I just do the standard thing... Tower, ground and finally ramp. I don't call'em anything in particular, just the normal stuff... "Ramp control good day, XXX at Sierra Foxtrot parking gate 16"

But I'd love to learn about it!

RM  Smile



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User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5298 times:

Late at night, the ramp tower will shut down, usually around 11PM. This message is in the ATIS simply to let the pilots know that the ramp tower is still open, and you will need to contact ramp at the appropriate time on the taxi-in or prior to pushback.

At EWR, ramp control is actually responsible for a large portion of the taxiways on the north side of the airport. My airline has charts depicting the control boundaries between ground and ramp. In EWR, there is no verbal handoff from ground to ramp....the pilot is expected to do it on their own at the appropriate time. In IAH ground control will usually tell you when they want you to contact ramp, same in CLE, CVG, ATL, LAX, ORD, etc etc. At most airports it's usually pretty obvious when you need to contact ramp....not the case at EWR, especially if you're using the continental terminals.


User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting Fly727 (Reply 2):
gate 16"

So you're flying for CO now?  Wink


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 4):
So you're flying for CO now? Wink

Nah, CO doesn't have a gate 16 at EWR  Smile


User currently offline10MID From Singapore, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5162 times:

Quoting Fly727 (Reply 2):
This also happens at IAH



Quoting Fly727 (Reply 2):
When I go there

E16 at IAH is right off SF.


User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 5):
Nah, CO doesn't have a gate 16 at EWR  

He's talking about IAH:  Smile

Quoting Fly727 (Reply 2):
This also happens at IAH


User currently offlineEssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 5081 times:

Just about any hub has a ramp freq, which is typically under the control of the resident airline. The purpose is to optimize flow to the (FAA's) ground/clearance delivery freqs, which are essentially "first come, first served"...

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

At IAH the ramp towers are located above the north and south fingers of Terminal C and they don't have the best view of Terminal A at all.....and the ramp procedures like most of the hub cities are in effect to help with pushbacks and not get the ramps too tied up, that seems like more of a wish than reality at IAH lately!


Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

The ramp towers at IAH are actually pretty neat....on the south side they have remote cameras which they use to monitor pushbacks along the east side of the terminal. They've got some interesting software up there too which gives them info about each flight number.

The west side of terminal A is actually uncontrolled...that's where Colgan and United park I believe.

Still haven't had a chance to make it up to the EWR ramp tower, but I hear it's pretty nice as well.


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4998 times:

Yep they do have some neat stuff and believe it or not the tower also has some of it, wonder when they will actually use it!  Smile Having said all about the equipment there has to be a better way to get you guys into and out of the ramps....gridlock we get to at times due to the arrival acceptance rate at IAH at times landing west being in the 120/hour but can't get the departures out that fast so they clog up the ramps. Colgan, United and all their RJ flights, Delta and their RJ flights as well might be caught on the cameras at Terminal A westside at times.


Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
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