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Entering Wind Direction/Speed In FMS Question  
User currently offlineJulianUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 105 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6918 times:

I am slightly confused, I didn't believe you had manually to enter wind speed and direction in the FMS system while cruising - I thought that the FMS would automatically detect the wind speed and direction as you fly and deal with it, but according to something I have read a pilot is required to enter the wind speed and direction.

What actually happens?


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User currently offlineMcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1569 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

The FMC uses the sensed winds for some computations. However, the reason the pilot enters the winds for the route is that without a predicted wind entry the FMC assumes forecast wind as ZERO for it's time and fuel calculations. Often we see this when flying a long international segment. We most likely will download our winds from our company computer via the acars directly to the FMC once we are airborne. On a flight from Europe to the states with strong winds the initial FMC ETA can be significantly different than the flight plan due to no winds being loaded. Once the winds are in the computer and it can then use them in determining the predicted winds the FMC ETA will be more in line with the Flight Plan.

User currently offlineOzLAME From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

Hmmm, must type more quickly  Yeah sure

[Edited 2006-05-21 14:57:21]

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User currently offlineMcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1569 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6896 times:

Here is some information I was able to get from my Boeing FMC guide. This is applicable to the FMC's on the 747-400,777 and 767 at my company.

" The FMC uses a mixing algorithim to determine the predicted wind at points infront of the aircraft. The predicted wind is a mix of the forecast wind and the measured wind.

At the aircraft's actual position, the computer uses 100% of the actual winds.

At 200nm in front of the aircraft, the FMC is using 50% of the actual wind and 50% of the forecast wind.

At distances over 200nm, the FMC will use successively less measured wind until the winds used is near 100% forecast.

In the climb and descent phases, the wind is mixed the same way except that the equal weight distance is 5,000' rather than 200nm and the distance from the aircraft axis is in feet rather than nautical miles."

User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 6054 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6878 times:

If you look at the FMS of the Airbus aircraft you will see this anomaly.

On a long leg, look at time of your next waypoint on the FMS, also, look at the next waypoint time on your ND. They may not be the same. The difference?

The FMS uses the winds you have manually input and is using them to estimate your next waypoint time. The ND next waypoint time is using actual winds, and is assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that winds will not change to the next waypoint. Therefore the difference.

It is something one has to consider when sending position reports .... which of the two is the more accurate.

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