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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5506 times:
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So I ran across this image of an FAA-operated Global Express:


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...and I can't help but wonder what different capabilities justify operating both a Global Express and a G-IV:


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In other words, why not operate two G-IVs, or two BD-700s? I understand the two models have different ranges, but would that really outweigh the benefits of commonality?




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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Thread starter):
In other words, why not operate two G-IVs, or two BD-700s? I understand the two models have different ranges, but would that really outweigh the benefits of commonality?

You really have to sit and think about it. The GIV and the BD-700 are two completely different breeds of aircraft. I have a feeling that N1 reg. is meant for an aircraft of this type. The current N1 GIV is not the same as it was 2-4 years ago. There is also 4-5 other Challengers in the FAA fleet. These two aircraft are nitch aircraft. The GIV is a big mid-range aircraft where the BD-700 is the ultamate in long range. They also have a large fleet of Hakwers, Beech, and Learjet aircraft. I have a feeling these kinds of fleet choices were made for specific reasoning and not just a whim.

Thanks,

Matt



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5440 times:
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Quoting UA777222 (Reply 1):
I have a feeling these kinds of fleet choices were made for specific reasoning and not just a whim.

Oh, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I'm just curious about the requirements and selection process.

I find it surprising that the FAA requires such a vast array of bizjet types, and would like to learn more about their specific mission profiles.




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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5432 times:

The Gulfstream is 18 years old and may be retired soon the Bombardier was purchased in 2005.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 2):
Oh, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I'm just curious about the requirements and selection process.

I find it surprising that the FAA requires such a vast array of bizjet types, and would like to learn more about their specific mission profiles.

The FAA's current jet aircraft fleet looks like this;

2x 727 (Long Range)
1x GIV (12-14+ pax 3200nm-4500nm $17,000,000.00)
1x BD-700 (14-18 pax 6500nm $41,000,000.00)
4x CL-600 (8-12pax 3200nm $8,000,000.00 -- 13,000,000.00)
6x LJ-60 (6-8 pax 2000nm $4,500,000.00 -- 7,000,000.00)
3x HWK-800A (6-8 pax 2100nm $4,300,000.00 -- $6,000,000.00)

The G-IV, in my opinion, has a very needed place in the FAA fleet. The size alone is 20+ feet longer than the Challenger. Cargo and Passenger capability is far better in a G-IV than in the Challenger. The BD-700, like the G-IV is clearly out ranged compared to the rest. I don't think a fleet of 2+ BD-700's is necessary. They are the FAA and their coverage should maily be the 50 United States. The G-IV should be able to do JFK-HNL-JFK with one stop going non-stop back, though it would be pushing it's range. It would also be able to do JFK-ANC-JFK non-stop both ways. So, while I think it is a bit odd to have a Gulfstream in such a large fleet of Lear's (now Bombardier), Hawkers, and Challengers (Essentially Bombardier), it does hold it's own in the fleet if you take a step back and look at what they're working with.

So again, my guess is just nitch aircraft.

Thanks!

Matt



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